Quoting MommyToWesley:" That's what I keep hoping too. We can live in ignorance for a while, still haha. My husband's parents ... [snip!] ... even notice the first time we had sex. Granted, we were really drunk, but I didn't notice/care the second time either. lol"

As long as it's cleaned no biggy. But let's face it, that's true for both lol. Balls stink man!

Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:" I was born in Anchorage and lived there for 7 years. I loved it."

nice! what made you leave?
I would love to move, as beautiful as the summers are, the winters SUCK!

We talked about it, we both wanted the same thing (to circ). However I told my husband that if I decided not to, legally he couldn't do anything about it... that didn't go over well  

Either way, the AAP and CDC are changing their statements about leaving intact now- saying it's actually better to circ during infancy.

Quoting tinana +2:" We talked about it, we both wanted the same thing (to circ). However I told my husband that if I decided ... [snip!] ... the AAP and CDC are changing their statements about leaving intact now- saying it's actually better to circ during infancy."

I find that stupid, that the AAP and CDC say that. I mean, nevermind the fact that the rest of the world doesn't seem to have the amount of penis issues that America has...  

Quoting Kayla [ ]♥:" I find that stupid, that the AAP and CDC say that. I mean, nevermind the fact that the rest of the world doesn't seem to have the amount of penis issues that America has...  "

This is always one of my main arguments to "It helps reduce the risk of AIDS and STDs".

I didn't read everyone else's post but I say compromise, but really mean we talked and agreed. we're engaged and having our first and we can't have the animosity of one person making the final decision if we're getting married and raising the baby together. SO is not circ. I am jewish and was raised around circ. I never had a strong opinion. After being with SO, I have come to agree with him not wanting to circ our son, if it's a boy. we find out in 11 days. As a mother, you have final say in my eyes, especially if daddy isn't gonna be around or something. it's so controversial but you need to know the facts, and you do because your son is fine. SO is fine, and not for nothing, the spot SO has that other guys do not due to being cut makes him feel sooo good, so do what you think is right.

whichever one doesn't want to mutilate their child.


 

Quoting tinana +2:" We talked about it, we both wanted the same thing (to circ). However I told my husband that if I decided ... [snip!] ... the AAP and CDC are changing their statements about leaving intact now- saying it's actually better to circ during infancy."

They haven't hanged. They say benefits outweigh risks but not by enough to recommend it. How is that different? There was a LOT of hype - but no real change.

The fact is benefits are ALL potential & risks are all avoidable - as in don't do it.

In our case we agreed. Had we not agreed I would literally leave my Dh BEFORE I'd let him cut on my baby - absolute. Thank heavens it did not come to that. :p I literally do see it that seriously - because it is cutting on the genitals of my child. If you want to ask me which part of MY body feels the most vulnerable & the most sacred & the most like it belongs to ME & only ME? My genitals. I would *think* most people feel that way. The LAST place I'd let anyone put a scalpel is near there, even if Dh was begging me to do it. No way. Thankfully - watching Penn & Tellers Bullsmurf started him down a path of research & that lead us to the same place. it is NOT OUR penis - not his nor mine - the penises that are intact in this house belong to the little boys who live her e& they will do with them as THEY please.


And for those that "Knew someone who needed to be circed later". PLEASE realize that 99% of them didn't & it could have been resolved in a different way if they lived in a culture that cared to help them keep a foreskin AND that most of the time the issues come from improper care. So you DO need to educate yourself when you parent an intact child & the proper care has been lost (like Dh is circed).
No retraction.
Only clean what is seen.
The ONLY person who should retract it ever is the owner of the foreskin.
Do NOT use soap on mucous membranes - a water rinse is great & will avoid bacterial & yeast issue cropping up.
In Finland Infant & Child Circ is OUTLAWED for non medically indicated reasons - the rate of circumcised men among adults? 1 in 16,000 - so I DO call Bullsmurf on so many children & men "needing" circs in the US. I think parents sadly don't know what is normal & Dr's are too quick to recommend it for NORMAL stuff. The average age to retract is 10 yrs old - but I've already been told my 5 yr should retract (he doesn't) and yet my friend in Germany has a 6 yr old & she asked the Dr about it & he said "It's a little early for that"...LOL If a child is diagnosed with phimosis before age 18 - you need to run far far away from that Dr.

The fact is, most intact men who "stink" use soap...so their pH is messed up. A foreskin requires LESS care than labia - and it's easier - it's all out front where you can see it.

Quoting justanothamotha:" They haven't hanged. They say benefits outweigh risks but not by enough to recommend it. How is that ... [snip!] ... their pH is messed up. A foreskin requires LESS care than labia - and it's easier - it's all out front where you can see it."

this!

My son is, but my current SO and I are both not wanting to if LO is a boy. Last time, however, my boyfriend made the call because I didn't know better and he seemed to have a strong opinion.

Quoting justanothamotha:" They haven't hanged. They say benefits outweigh risks but not by enough to recommend it. How is that ... [snip!] ... their pH is messed up. A foreskin requires LESS care than labia - and it's easier - it's all out front where you can see it."

VWS!!!!

Quoting justanothamotha:" They haven't hanged. They say benefits outweigh risks but not by enough to recommend it. How is that ... [snip!] ... their pH is messed up. A foreskin requires LESS care than labia - and it's easier - it's all out front where you can see it."

I HATE when people say 'so and so had it done years later' well duh, back then they TOLD people to pull the skin back.

Quoting KNZ.:" For those of you voting for the 'compromise', what did it end up being? i mean, like, who ended up convincing who."

Hey I am so sorry this is going on in your home we had the same issue but I convinced my SO that it was not right.(to cut him) Just because his parents did it to him. In the end my SO changed his mind and now he is VERY happy that we did not do it.

PM me if you want more info on how I got him to come around.... I actuly wrote about in on here one time.

So my SO is cut and his son is not! and part of getting SO to come around was showing Daddy the stats on how things are changing and how a lot of boys are not getting it now. So he will be the norm in school and not "the weird" kid

Thankfully it was just an unspoken given that we were not circumcising.

It's funny because I think I was like 28 weeks, before anyone even brang up the issue & it was my brothers.

They were like "if you even think about circumcision, we'll cut your head off."

If SO wanted it done, I would have refused. No compromise from me on this.

Quoting justanothamotha:" They haven't hanged. They say benefits outweigh risks but not by enough to recommend it. How is that ... [snip!] ... their pH is messed up. A foreskin requires LESS care than labia - and it's easier - it's all out front where you can see it."

Way to try to pick apart what I said   Maybe I should have phrased my statement differently- if that's the case, I apologize. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY will convince me that a mother's intuition about a baby that hasn't even been born yet and her education or mis-education about circumcision (or any other medical issue, for that matter) will be more intelligent than sources and documents that prove actual statistics. That being said, I fully support moms who choose to circ and moms who choose not to circ, as long as they ARE educated as to the risks and benefits of each decision.

http://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/Pages/Newborn-Male-Circumcision.aspx?nfstatus=401&nftoken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&nfstatusdescription=ERROR%3a+No+local+token