re: Adam and Eve

Quoting Rd.:" This is stemming from an older debate I had, but I'm wondering about it lol Short version: In respect ... [snip!] ... are Adam and Eve human or animal? And if you believe in God, do you think that through creationism, he created evolution? lol"

There is absolutely no good reason to drive a wedge between evolution and religion. It's counterproductive, if you try this people will invariably side with their religion.

Evolution exists, there is no valid debate about that. If a god exists, then it absolutely did create the mechanism of evolution.


Adam and Eve are different story though lol. You will be hard-pressed to find a theistic evolutionist that believes in a literal Adam and Eve.

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" There is absolutely no good reason to drive a wedge between evolution and religion. It's counterproductive, ... [snip!] ... different story though lol. You will be hard-pressed to find a theistic evolutionist that believes in a literal Adam and Eve."

I think it's a bit silly in 2012 for people to believe a story such as that.

Quoting martinez♥:" In the bible it clearly says that Adam was man and Eve was woman, so I think that kinda means they were ... [snip!] ... argue that evolution was created by Satan as an attempt to disprove the creationalism theory and turn people from God's word."

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the argument stops at Adam and Ever had sons and no daughters. Where the hell did everyone else come from?

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

I am so glad to see you back. I missed you.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" I think it's a bit silly in 2012 for people to believe a story such as that."

I sometimes hang out with theistic evolutionists on FB. They also argue against various kinds of creationism and many literal interpretations of Old Testament stories.

Bible literalists would have to be young and/or flat earth creationists. That is where that smurf comes from lol, a literal reading of everything in the Bible.

But alas, even the so-called literalists cherry pick in their own way...

Quoting Lucid Dreamer:" I am so glad to see you back. I missed you."

Missed you too, I look forward to reading your interesting threads again

Quoting Devil Duckie:" the argument stops at Adam and Ever had sons and no daughters. Where the hell did everyone else come from? "

The Bible mentions a city that already existed, to which Cain went and got a wife from after he was marked.

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" I sometimes hang out with theistic evolutionists on FB. They also argue against various kinds of creationism ... [snip!] ... lol, a literal reading of everything in the Bible. But alas, even the so-called literalists cherry pick in their own way..."

Oh I know this, believe me they also will be the ones stretching every bit of data possible to prove the exodus as well. Sort of like david rohl, who wants to shift Egyptian history 300 years so it can prove biblical stories more effectively.

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" The Bible mentions a city that already existed, from which Cain went and got a wife from after he was marked."

*face palm* I'm not even going to start. the damn thing is so full of inconsistencies and historical inaccuracies not to mention crimes against women and children....

My poor intelligent brain will smurfing explode if I try to tear that sucker apart.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Oh I know this, believe me they also will be the ones stretching every bit of data possible to prove ... [snip!] ... well. Sort of like david rohl, who wants to shift Egyptian history 300 years so it can prove biblical stories more effectively."

 

Quoting Devil Duckie:" *face palm* I'm not even going to start. the damn thing is so full of inconsistencies and historical ... [snip!] ... crimes against women and children.... My poor intelligent brain will smurfing explode if I try to tear that sucker apart. "

Try asking a bible thumper about the 2 sets of 10 commandments ;)

Quoting Devil Duckie:" *face palm* I'm not even going to start. the damn thing is so full of inconsistencies and historical ... [snip!] ... crimes against women and children.... My poor intelligent brain will smurfing explode if I try to tear that sucker apart. "

You kind of have to be ridiculous to take that story literally. Even 1000 years ago the hugely influential Rabbi Rashi argued against a literal reading of Genesis. To be literal about it today is just a step backwards.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Try asking a bible thumper about the 2 sets of 10 commandments ;)"

no. I've done enough of that in my day. It just makes me want to beat them severely.

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" You kind of have to be ridiculous to take that story literally. Even 1000 years ago the hugely influential ... [snip!] ... influential Rabbi Rashi argued against a literal reading of Genesis. To be literal about it today is just a step backwards."

yeah, but now how many overly ridiculous under logical freaks are there in the world?