re: "Slut"

Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" That's what we've been saying this WHOLE time..."

Yes but it evolved from slightly questionable to the ridiculous.

Quoting MommaSparrow:" so it's fine for your children to see your family completely nude - in other words, it's safe to say ... [snip!] ... to be sexual as you walked around your house naked. There is very clear difference between being sexual and being comfortable."

Yeaaah, we're talking cases where the woman or man at the store is being intentionally sexual with what they wear, and wearing stuff that knowingly shows their genitals. Thus crossing that difference between comfortable and sexual.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Yes but it evolved from slightly questionable to the ridiculous."

It's not ridiculous when more than one person has seen what we're talking about on a regular basis.  

Quoting MommaSparrow:" so it's fine for your children to see your family completely nude - in other words, it's safe to say ... [snip!] ... to be sexual as you walked around your house naked. There is very clear difference between being sexual and being comfortable."

Uhhh - if you leave the house and go in public and your nipples are showing, then yes, you are intending to be sexual.

When I come out of the shower and dry off while walking around, I am not being sexual and I am their mother - HUGE smurfing difference.

Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" Yeaaah, we're talking cases where the woman or man at the store is being intentionally sexual with what ... [snip!] ... wear, and wearing stuff that knowingly shows their genitals. Thus crossing that difference between comfortable and sexual. "

I get that, but "dressing sexual" in public shouldn't be an issue unless it moves to actually acting sexual.

Quoting LolaMcKitten:" Uhhh - if you leave the house and go in public and your nipples are showing, then yes, you are intending ... [snip!] ... out of the shower and dry off while walking around, I am not being sexual and I am their mother - HUGE smurfing difference. "

Novali has seen men and women change clothing in public... it wasn't sexual at all and none of us have problems with that. They were changing their clothes, no big deal.


I would have a problem if I saw that fishnet dress like one poster said or shorts shorter than your ass or something because then I might have to explain to Novali that she cannot dress that way and attempt to explain why.... it wouldn't be a fun conversation. But luckily, I've never seen it around here.

Quoting LolaMcKitten:" Uhhh - if you leave the house and go in public and your nipples are showing, then yes, you are intending ... [snip!] ... out of the shower and dry off while walking around, I am not being sexual and I am their mother - HUGE smurfing difference. "

Which brings me around to my original point. If you teach your kids to feel shameful of bodies that do not even belong to them, it will ultimately have negative repercussions on how they feel about their own and place negative value on others.

Quoting MommaSparrow:" Which brings me around to my original point. If you teach your kids to feel shameful of bodies that ... [snip!] ... to them, it will ultimately have negative repercussions on how they feel about their own and place negative value on others. "

But no one is saying that the nude body is a problem... No one is saying that we should be shameful of our bodies.  

Quoting MommaSparrow:" I get that, but "dressing sexual" in public shouldn't be an issue unless it moves to actually acting sexual."

Nope - when I see your goodies hanging out - and I HAVE, though I have zero issue with the majority of what people wear - it is an issue. When I see your ass cheeks hanging out of your skirt and all but your nipples showing, then I see that as incredibly disrespectful and not ok.

And again - there is a time and a place. Nudity in my home is just that - in my home where I have control over whether the person who is nude is being sexual. If you want to wear scandalous outfits and show your nipples, the more power to you, but it's irresponsible to do so in front of peoples children. If someone chooses to go to a place where it is expected that there will be nudity and they choose to bring their children and it is safe and legal to do so - that is their choice and they know what to expect - but that place is not the grocery store.

Quoting MommaSparrow:" I get that, but "dressing sexual" in public shouldn't be an issue unless it moves to actually acting sexual."

O.o Are you serious right now?

How about this. Showing genitals is illegal. We're mainly discussing clothing so sexual that genitals are showing in some way, shape, or form. Therefore, that clothing shouldn't be worn, period. If you decide to go commando in a skirt that's so short your ovaries are showing, maybe you should rethink that, for common courtesy's sake, and for the sake of the law.

Quoting MommaSparrow:" Which brings me around to my original point. If you teach your kids to feel shameful of bodies that ... [snip!] ... to them, it will ultimately have negative repercussions on how they feel about their own and place negative value on others. "

I am in no way shaming nudity! Lol, you are very confused. Nudity and seeing sexuality when they are young children are two WAY different things. When you leave the house dressed in a way where your nipples are showing (and i am not talking about THO where you can see the shape of someones nipples through their bra and shirt) you are doing it because you feel sexy and to get attention. It is not appropriate for small children to see sexual images, plain and simple.

Again - sexuality and nudity are not the same thing and I have NEVER shamed nudity or the act of being nude, ever.

I AM shaming women who have no respect for other people and don't realize there is a time and place for dressing in a very sexual manner where there are children.

Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" O.o Are you serious right now? How about this. Showing genitals is illegal. We're mainly discussing ... [snip!] ... so short your ovaries are showing, maybe you should rethink that, for common courtesy's sake, and for the sake of the law. "

Exactly. Pubes and asscheeks belong inside of your clothing when you are in public, it;s the law, lol.

Quoting MommaSparrow:" Which brings me around to my original point. If you teach your kids to feel shameful of bodies that ... [snip!] ... to them, it will ultimately have negative repercussions on how they feel about their own and place negative value on others. "

And no. I was taught that dressing that way was rude to other people, disrespectful to myself, and just plain rude, and I am comfortable with my body, how it works, and I have no negative value on other people's bodies, IN THE RIGHT TIME AND PLACE. I enjoy half-nakedness in a strip club, or concert, or even possibly a nightclub. I do not enjoy it at the grocery store, where I will have to explain to my daughter why the 7 inch tall heels, skirt where the butt is showing with no underwear on, and super V-neck shirt with no bra and boobs flopping in and out is not something that she should wear out in public.

Quoting Rumpelstiltskin:" But no one is saying that the nude body is a problem... No one is saying that we should be shameful of our bodies.   "

By saying that someone dressing a certain way is sexual, or being able to see certain body parts is sexual, it really is exuding the idea that the human form is in some way shameful - especially as a woman, when shame and sexuality are considered in the same ballpark.

It's this kind of stigma that is making women choose not to breastfeed - because breasts nowadays are seen as purely sexual objects. But this is a topic on slut-shaming, so I won't get off-track with that...

Quoting MommaSparrow:" By saying that someone dressing a certain way is sexual, or being able to see certain body parts is ... [snip!] ... breasts nowadays are seen as purely sexual objects. But this is a topic on slut-shaming, so I won't get off-track with that..."

No, it's not shameful. It's DISRESPECTFUL. BIIIIIIIG difference there. And also Illegal.