re: Schools teaching evolution.

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" Example: All of the records show that a global flood never happened in human history, for example. ... [snip!] ... and more, all confirm that humanity never suffered a global catastrophe or sudden mass extinction of cultures or civilizations."

~fist bump~

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" I would have to resist the addictive urge though  "</blockquote>


Where'd you go? I've been MIA for awhile thanks to life. Just started hopping back in a couple weeks ago.

Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" I would have to resist the addictive ... [snip!] ... Where'd you go? I've been MIA for awhile thanks to life. Just started hopping back in a couple weeks ago."

Took a break from the internet, then went back to the FB debate groups. Also got Diablo III, but then my comp died.  

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" Took a break from the internet, then went back to the FB debate groups. Also got Diablo III, but then my comp died.  "</blockquote>



I haven't joined any other debate groups, but I'm considering it. Now that I'm homeschooling my sons, I need grown-up interaction!

Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" Took a break from the internet, then ... [snip!] ... joined any other debate groups, but I'm considering it. Now that I'm homeschooling my sons, I need grown-up interaction!"

For srs  

I'm off to bed nao. I'll be back, lmao smurfing BG got me again THEY ALLWAIZ CUM BAK

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" I'll explain a few things, if you don't mind... 1) There is no such thing as "both sides". You have ... [snip!] ... creationism is, instead, making arguments against the modern synthesis. The proper name for such a thing is anti-evolution."</blockquote>



I agree. I don't see how/why creationism would be taught in a science setting. When I was looking for my homeschool curriculum, I found one that I really liked that was Christian-based. However, I made the decision to use it only for subjects on which religion has no influence on facts, i.e. phonics and early math. I chose other curriculums for science and history. I want my children to have a good grasp on the world around them.

Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" I'll explain a few things, if you don't ... [snip!] ... math. I chose other curriculums for science and history. I want my children to have a good grasp on the world around them."

 

Nothing wrong with theistic evolution.

Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" I'll explain a few things, if you don't ... [snip!] ... math. I chose other curriculums for science and history. I want my children to have a good grasp on the world around them."

I think generally people who need creationism taught are very very religious and feel the bible most be inerrant. For to be otherwise would mean they could not believe. No matter the facts you put up, the reality that the ot/nt have loads of errors in them will convince them otherwise. People believing ID, at least attempt to use science to prove things, and don't reject the notion we evolved. But pure creationists....eh.

<blockquote><b>Quoting MysticWitchKat:</b>" I think generally people who need creationism taught are very very religious and feel the bible most ... [snip!] ... ID, at least attempt to use science to prove things, and don't reject the notion we evolved. But pure creationists....eh."</blockquote>


In my opinion, and I know I'm weird, pure creationists are simply ignoring the fact that the bible leaves out many, many things we know to be true. Now, don't get me wrong, I am a Christian and I read the bible. However, I look at most of it as a moral teaching tool and not a literal representation of the history of the world. No one can argue that evolution has and does occur, and no one can argue the fact that there are many conflicting things in the bible. I personally do not think its blasphemous to believe in science and God. I also don't think it's blasphemous to find answers outside of the bible. I'm always asking questions, though.

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:"   Nothing wrong with theistic evolution. "

Wow! Good to see you back here!
I trhink I changed from GrizzlyMomma to TheNuge after you left...so, it's me!

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>"   Nothing wrong with theistic evolution. "</blockquote>




That's pretty much the direction we go as far as beliefs. But, honestly, I don't teach my kids any religious beliefs in our science class because they aren't old enough to grasp both concepts. I do think its funny, though, that they haven't yet put two and two together. In Sunday school, it's all Genesis and in science it's all science.

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" Wow! Good to see you back here! I trhink I changed from GrizzlyMomma to TheNuge after you left...so, it's me!"</blockquote>




It's an OG reunion!

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leisurely Duchess:</b>" The Higgs boson has been confirmed, and the nickname "god particle" actually comes from the nickname ... [snip!] ... to do with deities or religion. Peter Higgs himself actually has intense dislike of the nickname, as it is very misleading."</blockquote>



Thanks for clearing that up. Like I said, I have a rudimentary understanding of physics. I took what I had to for my degree, but stuck mainly to biology and anatomy. I need to know more about bones and stomach gases than quarks and string theory. I wish I understood string theory better, but it makes my head hurt.

Quoting Boots+3:" Evolution is not a scientific theory, though. No more than creationism is...Evolution ultimately contradicts ... [snip!] ... researching it. I agree with the poster behind me...Teach both in only scientific terms if you are not looking to be biased."

I only read to this comment so I'm sorry but I just wanted to come by and say LOL!

First, sorry to burst your bubble, but evolution is IN FACT a scientific theory. *gasp* That means it holds a ton more weight than any "theory" some bronze age camel herder cooked up.

Second, I think you are confusing the theory of evolution with spontaneous generation and the big bang theory because evolution has absolutely nothing to do with how life or the universe began but how it developed to what it is in the present. That means before there were living single celled organisms, evolution is not in the picture. You can't say that you've done research on something or that something "contradicts itself" when you have absolutely no idea what it even entails.

Third, by definition, a scientific theory is falsifiable. So, if there were more scientific evidence of creationism (which there isn't), evolution would have been falsified. They don't go hand in hand, unless creationists are willing to say that Adam and Eve were a simple single celled organism spawned from the heavens.

I don't believe evolution can go together with an Adam and Eve story like somebody mentioned before you. Evolution starts at the beginning. Monkeys are an evolved form as well, so saying Adam and Eve could have been monkeys is like saying "Well, monkeys were created!" Then we might as well say people were created.

In some parishes in Louisiana, the schools can (sadly) teach creationism as an alternative theory. Creationism belongs in churches, not in science classes. If we wanted to teach everybody's religious theories, we need to teach the flat earth theory and how "god's love" holds us to earth instead of gravity. After all, those are only theories too.