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Lose job over FB Pic

Yes, they were on a company trip
 
79% (48 votes)
No
 
21% (13 votes)

Lose job over FB Pic

posted 21st Nov
BOSTON (KCTV/AP) -
Flipping the bird and posting the picture of it on Facebook could cost two women their jobs at an assisted living center.

That's because the two women didn't give the finger just anywhere. The location was the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery.




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Should Lindsey Stone and her co-worker lose their jobs for stupidly taking a disrespectful picture at Arlington National Cemetery?


Yes. It was disrespectful and they should learn a lesson
No. Their lives shouldn't be ruined over this since they apologized and removed it

Thank you for participating in our poll. Here are the results so far:Yes. It was disrespectful and they should learn a lesson72%No. Their lives shouldn't be ruined over this since they apologized and removed it28%
Lindsey Stone and her co-worker were on a trip last month sponsored by their employer for residents of the Cape Cod home for the disabled. Stone planted herself in front of a sign reading, "Arlington National Cemetery" "Silence and Respect." She pantomimed a yell and made the obscene gesture, and her friend captured the moment forever in a photo.
Stone thought her Facebook post would amuse her friends. She was apparently taken back when she received outrage from her Facebook friends.

"Whoa whoa whoa ... wait," Stone wrote on Oct. 20, according to the screen shot captured before her Facebook page was scrubbed."This is just us, being the douchebags that we are, challenging authority in general ... OBVIOUSLY we meant NO disrespect to people that serve or have served our country."
She was certainly shocked when a Facebook campaign began calling on her employer to fire her for disrespecting American's veterans.

Her employer, LIFE, Inc., said they are investigating the incident involving Stone and a co-worker who took the photo. The chief financial officer said the nonprofit is appalled.
Both Stone and Jamie Schuh have been placed on unpaid leave.
Stone's father told reporters he too was appalled and his 30-year-old daughter is very sorry to those she offended.
"She's totally apologetic. She apologizes to anybody she's offended," her father, Peter Stone, told me last night.
"She was reacting, I guess, to the sign instead of the place and didn't intend it to be what it turned out to be," Peter Stone told the Boston Herald. "She had a lack of judgment. I think they were just being funny, which is sad. It's not how she or the family feels by any means."
The two women released a statement to the Boston newspaper.

"We sincerely apologize for all the pain we have caused by posting the picture we took in Washington DC on Facebook. While posted on a public forum, the picture was intended only for our own amusement. We never meant any disrespect to any of the people nationwide who have served this country and defended our freedom so valiantly. It was meant merely as a visual pun, intending to depict the exact opposite of what the sign said, and had absolutely nothing to do with the location it was taken or the people represented there. We never meant to cause any harm or disrespect to anyone, particularly our men and women in uniform. We realize it was in incredibly poor taste, and are deeply sorry for the offense we have caused.
"We also sincerely apologize to LIFE, Inc. It is an amazing organization that provides invaluable services to adults with learning and developmental disabilities. We are beyond remorseful that our actions have caused them such undue public scrutiny. The disrespect implied by our picture has nothing at all to do with LIFE's mission statement or values. We regret having caused any suffering to the staff members, residents, families and friends. Again, we very sincerely apologize to everyone who took offense to the photo. We realize that it was an ignorant and distasteful thing for us to do, but we truly meant no harm. We are deeply sorry."
LIFE issued its own statement:
"On Nov. 19 at approximately 6 p.m., we became aware that one of our employees had posted an offensive, inappropriate photograph on her personal Facebook page. The photo was taken at a national historic site in October by a fellow employee during a trip to Washington, D.C. attended by 40 residents and eight staff. The photo has since been removed from Facebook, and both employees have been placed on unpaid leave pending the results of an internal investigation.
"This photograph in no way reflects the opinions or values of the LIFE organization, which holds our nation's veterans in the highest regard. We are proud to have veterans serving on our staff and board of trustees, and we value their service. The men and women who have selflessly fought and sacrificed their lives to protect the rights and lives of Americans deserve our utmost respect and gratitude. We are acutely aware that this photo has done a disservice to veterans and we are deeply saddened that it was

http://www.wtvm.com/story/20161054/woman-could-lose-job-over-disrespectful-picture-taken-at-arlington-national-cemetery

BOSTON (KCTV/AP) -
Flipping the bird and posting the picture of it on Facebook could cost two women their jobs at an assisted living center.

That's because the two women didn't give the finger just anywhere. The location was the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery

Lindsey Stone and her co-worker were on a trip last month sponsored by their employer for residents of the Cape Cod home for the disabled. Stone planted herself in front of a sign reading, "Arlington National Cemetery" "Silence and Respect." She pantomimed a yell and made the obscene gesture, and her friend captured the moment forever in a photo.
Stone thought her Facebook post would amuse her friends. She was apparently taken back when she received outrage from her Facebook friends.

"Whoa whoa whoa ... wait," Stone wrote on Oct. 20, according to the screen shot captured before her Facebook page was scrubbed."This is just us, being the douchebags that we are, challenging authority in general ... OBVIOUSLY we meant NO disrespect to people that serve or have served our country."
She was certainly shocked when a Facebook campaign began calling on her employer to fire her for disrespecting American's veterans.

Her employer, LIFE, Inc., said they are investigating the incident involving Stone and a co-worker who took the photo. The chief financial officer said the nonprofit is appalled.
Both Stone and Jamie Schuh have been placed on unpaid leave.
Stone's father told reporters he too was appalled and his 30-year-old daughter is very sorry to those she offended.
"She's totally apologetic. She apologizes to anybody she's offended," her father, Peter Stone, told me last night.
"She was reacting, I guess, to the sign instead of the place and didn't intend it to be what it turned out to be," Peter Stone told the Boston Herald. "She had a lack of judgment. I think they were just being funny, which is sad. It's not how she or the family feels by any means."
The two women released a statement to the Boston newspaper.

"We sincerely apologize for all the pain we have caused by posting the picture we took in Washington DC on Facebook. While posted on a public forum, the picture was intended only for our own amusement. We never meant any disrespect to any of the people nationwide who have served this country and defended our freedom so valiantly. It was meant merely as a visual pun, intending to depict the exact opposite of what the sign said, and had absolutely nothing to do with the location it was taken or the people represented there. We never meant to cause any harm or disrespect to anyone, particularly our men and women in uniform. We realize it was in incredibly poor taste, and are deeply sorry for the offense we have caused.
"We also sincerely apologize to LIFE, Inc. It is an amazing organization that provides invaluable services to adults with learning and developmental disabilities. We are beyond remorseful that our actions have caused them such undue public scrutiny. The disrespect implied by our picture has nothing at all to do with LIFE's mission statement or values. We regret having caused any suffering to the staff members, residents, families and friends. Again, we very sincerely apologize to everyone who took offense to the photo. We realize that it was an ignorant and distasteful thing for us to do, but we truly meant no harm. We are deeply sorry."
LIFE issued its own statement:
"On Nov. 19 at approximately 6 p.m., we became aware that one of our employees had posted an offensive, inappropriate photograph on her personal Facebook page. The photo was taken at a national historic site in October by a fellow employee during a trip to Washington, D.C. attended by 40 residents and eight staff. The photo has since been removed from Facebook, and both employees have been placed on unpaid leave pending the results of an internal investigation.
"This photograph in no way reflects the opinions or values of the LIFE organization, which holds our nation's veterans in the highest regard. We are proud to have veterans serving on our staff and board of trustees, and we value their service. The men and women who have selflessly fought and sacrificed their lives to protect the rights and lives of Americans deserve our utmost respect and gratitude. We are acutely aware that this photo has done a disservice to veterans and we are deeply saddened that it was
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in Georgia
posted 21st Nov
Considering where she works and it was a company trip, yes.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, California
posted 21st Nov
Yes since it was on an employer sponsored trip
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in USA
posted 21st Nov
I posted the picture on here yesterday. As a Veteran, smurf that. I hope she does lose her job. "Question authority" somewhere else you piece of smurf.

Tis all.
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Costa Rica
posted 21st Nov
She's 30 years old. If she didn't know better than to do that and think it was funny, I wouldn't trust her judgement working with my disabled family member.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 21st Nov
I posted in a thread about this topic earlier and my opinion still stands. She was being a disrespectful little smurf and I wouldn't want her working for my company. When you're an adult with a job, you need to be careful of the things you do. Regardless of who's time you are on. Employees are representation of the company they work for. An employer reserves the right to fire anyone they wish for any reason. These are not teenagers here...they are grown ass women. They should know better.

Not only that but we are a military family and I have family members in the military so it goes without saying. She needs to have some class. I'm glad she was fired.
quotesmurfs?
I live in Georgia
posted 21st Nov
Wow. A little sad they found that to be amusing.
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I have 3 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Oregon
posted 21st Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" She's 30 years old. If she didn't know better than to do that and think it was funny, I wouldn't trust her judgement working with my disabled family member."</blockquote>




This is exactly what I was thinking. She's not some silly teenager or a college freshman on Spring Break. She's a 30 year old woman acting a fool. On her employer's dime. I understand controversial humor, but there's a line to not cross as well as a time and place for said humor.
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I have 3 kids & live in Indiana
posted 21st Nov
Ya, at that point she was representing her company and they have every right to terminate her. It's unfortunate she could loose her job over something so stupid, but I have no sympathy for her...

And who ever posted the original survey, I'm guessing the newspaper is being really dramatic. Their lives will not be ruined over this!  
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I have 4 kids & live in Raleigh, North Carolina
posted 21st Nov
Quoting Jas ♥:" I posted in a thread about this topic earlier and my opinion still stands. She was being a disrespectful ... [snip!] ... and I have family members in the military so it goes without saying. She needs to have some class. I'm glad she was fired."

And to add to what you put so wonderfully, she works for a non for profit vet organization. Um, wtf
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, California
posted 21st Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting ♡Sarah♡ + 2:</b>" And to add to what you put so wonderfully, she works for a non for profit vet organization. Um, wtf"</blockquote>




  she does? That's horrible
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in USA
posted 21st Nov
No because I believe everyone has the right to their own views and should not be punished because the majority takes offense to it. If the company had decided on their own to do it that would be one thing. But it bothers me because it was done because of a campaign to get her fired over it.
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I live in ?
posted 21st Nov
Quoting ♡Sarah♡ + 2:" And to add to what you put so wonderfully, she works for a non for profit vet organization. Um, wtf"

WHAT? That just makes smurf worse.
quotesmurfs?
I live in Georgia
posted 21st Nov
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" No because I believe everyone has the right to their own views and should not be punished because the ... [snip!] ... own to do it that would be one thing. But it bothers me because it was done because of a campaign to get her fired over it."

The company was going to fire her anyway, the outrage of the public just pushed along their decision.
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I live in Georgia
posted 21st Nov
Quoting Jas ♥:" The company was going to fire her anyway, the outrage of the public just pushed along their decision."

I was under the impression they had no idea until the public stink over it.
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I live in ?
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