Quoting she nan igans:" Kill their innocence? Really? Not believing in a make believe person is "killing their innocence?" A ... [snip!] ... kids is a MUCH better way then telling them about Santa. Santa is commercialized. It's about greed. It's not about giving."

The original St Nick was very very evil actually.

<blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" The original St Nick was very very evil actually."</blockquote>




how im very courious actually

Quoting Alicia Holz:" <blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" The original St Nick was very very evil actually."</blockquote> how im very courious actually"

I'll have to look it up. I don't remember the specifics but I remember it was more to terrify children.

<blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" I'll have to look it up. I don't remember the specifics but I remember it was more to terrify children."</blockquote>




i know in one country they used to tell bad kids santa would come and make them slaves

Quoting Alicia Holz:" <blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" I'll have to look it up. I don't ... [snip!] ... children."</blockquote> i know in one country they used to tell bad kids santa would come and make them slaves"

In a lot of the European countries there's a lot of evil background with christmas. I found this so far...

http://www.fright.com/edge/scary_facts_about_christmas.htm

<blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" In a lot of the European countries there's a lot of evil background with christmas. I found this so far... http://www.fright.com/edge/scary_facts_about_christmas.htm"</blockquote>




that is scary

Quoting Alicia Holz:" <blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" In a lot of the European countries ... [snip!] ... I found this so far... http://www.fright.com/edge/scary_facts_about_christmas.htm"</blockquote> that is scary"

Yeah, there's a lot people don't know about Christmas.

Since your kid knows he's not real, what difference does it make if someone says he is? Whereas, a kid who does believe in Santa, being told that he is not real, then you actually have to get down and explain it to your kid? I guess it's more upsetting. Kwim?

Personally, we're not over the top about Santa and if they find out he's not real, it's whatever. We're the worst at being Santa anyway, so my kids probably won't even be surprised. LOL

It's just a bit of fun while it lasts.

Quoting Ryloonjimama:" Since your kid knows he's not real, what difference does it make if someone says he is? Whereas, a kid ... [snip!] ... the worst at being Santa anyway, so my kids probably won't even be surprised. LOL It's just a bit of fun while it lasts."

It makes a difference. So someone who is Jewish has to hide their beliefs in no Santa just because someone doesn't want to explain to their kid they've been lying to them? Yeah, I don't think so.

I know in our son's case and in the case of the moron teacher last year, Will had known from the beginning Santa wasn't real and it was just a fun story. But he was 4, and impressionable. Having a teacher, the teacher's staff, and his classmates tell him Santa was real, go through the motions of writing to Santa and then bringing in Santa to class was enough to thouroughly confuse him.

This came up last year and my daughter told me that some kids were telling her Santa was not real. I asked her what she believed. She thought about it for a bit and told me she still believed he was then questioned why others didn't. I told her that some people dont believe in Santa, just like some people don't believe in God and that's okay. I told her that as long as she believed in her heart that Santa was real, he was real. That is not something I will take away from them.

I can understand not doing Santa for religious reasons but to not do it because you're lying to them and afraid of hurting them is silly, IMHO.

But, whatevs.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" It makes a difference. So someone who is Jewish has to hide their beliefs in no Santa just because ... [snip!] ... was real, go through the motions of writing to Santa and then bringing in Santa to class was enough to thouroughly confuse him."</blockquote>


It's not so someone doesn't have to explain. I'm sorry, but a child's feelings are more important than an adults in this situation. That's my opinion. It's not right from either side. Of course, that's wrong that your child was confused, did the teacher know your religious beliefs? I thought there was supposed to be activities set aside for families who didn't believe.

She should have respected your wishes on the matter. She wouldn't like if you told her kids santa wasn't real. It goes both ways.

My s/o doesn't want to do it,but we are anyway he can just get over that. He doesn't want our son to believe the gifts are coming from someone pretend. I want to because it's fun for them to believe.

My kids dont believe in Santa either. They are 4 and 10 yrs old and well lo is only 9.5 months old at the moment.

I never say anything and my kids dont either. Ever since my oldest dd was just under 3 yrs old and she had way too many questions and couldnt see how Santa could be real, she doubted every answer that was given to her, so I decided to tell her he was not real, and she was upset at the fact that I had lied to her, not over the fact that he didnt exsist. lol

So we told my middle at 3 yrs old as well.

I have family who have some older kids who still believe and know a few other kids that do still believe, and I think its weird lol IMO.

But my kids know its not nice to tell others if they still believe in Sanata, so the dont. And when kids talk about Santa and what they want etc.......they just play along with them and keep their sweet little non believing lips closed. lol

I dont really see it as a double standard IMO tho.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ryloonjimama:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" It makes a difference. So someone ... [snip!] ... teacher know your religious beliefs? I thought there was supposed to be activities set aside for families who didn't believe."</blockquote>




and this is why religion should be out of schools get rid of christmas and easter out..