re: school and religion

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" No it's not."

How is it not? As long as the school wasn't hosting the prayer or no school officials were involved, it IS a violation of his rights.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ℳary ℐane:</b>" How did people know he was praying? He was kneeling in the hallway?"</blockquote>




He was standing in the hallway. He was saying it out loud with bis friend but they were doing it quietly. A teacher walked by and asked what they were doing and he told her.

Ya all of us who had to do the Pledge of Alliance are effed up in the head and cannot function

Quoting RachelRainne:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ℳary ℐane:</b>" How did people know he was praying? ... [snip!] ... it out loud with bis friend but they were doing it quietly. A teacher walked by and asked what they were doing and he told her."

I imagine there had to be more to it then that. I've never heard of a school out right suspending unless the students ignored the teacher, and continued, or kept doing it on other days.

<blockquote><b>Quoting MysticWitchKat:</b>" I imagine there had to be more to it then that. I've never heard of a school out right suspending unless the students ignored the teacher, and continued, or kept doing it on other days."</blockquote>

Thats the first time he has ever done thag. He is in the 7th grade and just started public school at the beginning of the.school year. Before that he was homeschooled.

I still think your family should consult a lawyer.

Quoting 𝓪utumn𝓪l:" I still think your family should consult a lawyer."

She could try, but case law stands pretty firm against him winning. Any type of prayer held on school grounds that is deemed disruptive is not considered protected.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Δ ☮ ∂:</b>" If they're praying privately the schools can't do anything about it. How could they control their thought? ... [snip!] ... a government ran public school. "Under God" was an addition to the pledge and I have no issue with it being taken back out. "</blockquote>




   

My daughter was sent to the Principles office for blessing her food at lunch time...It is most def against a persons rights to not allow them to pray on their own in school or not. If they are not involoving anyone else they CAN NOT restrict the persons want to pray. and YES I talked to a laywer about this.

Quoting **Blessed Insanity **:" My daughter was sent to the Principles office for blessing her food at lunch time...It is most def against ... [snip!] ... If they are not involoving anyone else they CAN NOT restrict the persons want to pray. and YES I talked to a laywer about this."

The issue is when it becomes in public places, and causes a disturbance. A personal prayer would be protected but standing in the hallway having a prayer group would not. It all boils down to how it's presented.

Quoting 𝓪utumn𝓪l:" How is it not? As long as the school wasn't hosting the prayer or no school officials were involved, it IS a violation of his rights."

It's only protected if it does not disrupt the general day to day gathering of the school.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" The issue is when it becomes in public places, and causes a disturbance. A personal prayer would be ... [snip!] ... prayer would be protected but standing in the hallway having a prayer group would not. It all boils down to how it's presented."

I totally agree that its all in how good your lawyer is, and how its presented, probably also helps if you live in a Red state as well. Personally i think that schools are being very hypocritical with how they are doing things, which was one reason i pulled my kids out of public school to homechool last year ( they are now back in public schools, for now) but when they prohibit a christian club in school but allow an athiest one, and then get teachers fired for not supporting the athiest club, thats just messed up.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" It's only protected if it does not disrupt the general day to day gathering of the school."

A simple prayer between classes is no more disruptive than kids changing classes. As long as they are not standing in the middle of the hallway, and as long as its not some all hail mary and brimstone yelling and condemning ppl to hell type of prayer, i see nothing wrong with a group of kids, being reverent and saying a simple prayer between classes.

Quoting **Blessed Insanity **:" A simple prayer between classes is no more disruptive than kids changing classes. As long as they ... [snip!] ... to hell type of prayer, i see nothing wrong with a group of kids, being reverent and saying a simple prayer between classes."

I mean really, how is that any more disruptive than any other talk and shouting that goes on inbetween classes? In fact i bet the ones who were praying were more quiet than any of the other kids walking down those halls. I rememer highschool, and how the jocks and cheerlearders could make a lot of disruptions, but they never got kicked out of school

Quoting **Blessed Insanity **:" I totally agree that its all in how good your lawyer is, and how its presented, probably also helps ... [snip!] ... club in school but allow an athiest one, and then get teachers fired for not supporting the athiest club, thats just messed up."

Atheism isn't a religion however. And even thought a lot of atheists can be self righteous smurfs they are not a religion persay. It would be upheald in the state courts, as they always are, but struck down in the federal appeals courts most likely.