re: Peacefully withdrawing from the USA

Quoting Nanna Boo Boo's Mommy:" If guns kill people then pencils make mistakes. Stricker guns control is taking away our 2nd admendment, ... [snip!] ... That scares me. The government telling us what we can and cannot purchase, what else are they going to do inforce slavery?!?"

It should scare you and you are exactly right. Losing freedom in the name of "safety" ...NO THANKS.

Quoting Leash25:" if you say so... since you know so much about where I live go ahead and google the crime rate as well... ... [snip!] ... of the day... So like I said you are worried about a war, i already live in a war zone... Since you know every smurfing thing"

Sorry, but the criminals aren't just going to abide by gun laws. DO THEY NOW? No. They're CRIMINALS.  

Think...just for a second. Clear your head and THINK.

Its proven that the states with less gun laws have less violence etc.. Think about it if the criminals knew you were walking down the street with a gun more then lilely they are not going to mess with you. I have seen it when Grandma won a huge jackpot at the casino I use to live next door to. She walked out by herself 2 thugs followed her and demanded her money. She pulled out a gun. and they ran like little bitches!

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" It should scare you and you are exactly right. Losing freedom in the name of "safety" ...NO THANKS."

Well i feel pretty safe knowing my family is protected with a firearm in the house, and no person or government is going to control that. these are our rights and they can't just be changed because someone decieded the guns are the ones killing people, no more then controling the consuption of alcohol and saying that liquer is the cause of car accidents.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" It should scare you and you are exactly right. Losing freedom in the name of "safety" ...NO THANKS."</blockquote>



Patriot Act and NDAA are scary beasts.

Not going to happen.

Oh, and if you want a good thriller to read, look up UN Resolution Agenda 21. That will be our greatest loss of freedom.

And as for gun laws, it depends. My school tried to make it legal to have
guns on campus. I don't feel comfortable with a bunch of hormonal college students having guns at arms length at an educational institution.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" And as for gun laws, it depends. My school tried to make it legal to have guns on campus. I don't feel ... [snip!] ... I don't feel comfortable with a bunch of hormonal college students having guns at arms length at an educational institution."

The violent crime rate at the University of Texas went down when they started allowing students and teachers to legally carry weapons. Those "hormonal college students" are also at the same age as our soldiers. Those soldiers are carrying high powered weapons at war and on military bases all over the world. Are they not supposed to carry weapons because they are "hormonal"?

http://www.campuscarry.com/supporting-facts-arguments/
http://www.largo.org/Lott.html

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" The violent crime rate at the University of Texas went down when they started allowing students and ... [snip!] ... weapons because they are "hormonal"? http://www.campuscarry.com/supporting-facts-arguments/



Guns have no place in schools.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" The violent crime rate at the University of Texas ... [snip!] ... because they are "hormonal"? http://www.campuscarry.com/supporting-facts-arguments/ Guns have no place in schools."

The study by Professor Lott shows the opposite. Violent crime rate goes DOWN on campuses when people are allowed to carry.

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" The study by Professor Lott shows the opposite. Violent crime rate goes DOWN on campuses when people are allowed to carry. "</blockquote>


My school doesn't have a problem with violent crime. It was a knee jerk reaction to petty theft and robberies that were being committed very recently.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" The violent crime rate at the University of Texas ... [snip!] ... because they are "hormonal"? http://www.campuscarry.com/supporting-facts-arguments/ Guns have no place in schools."

While I agree, I think the same logic applies to schools as anywhere else. Someone who is willing to actually shoot someone isn't concerned about whether or not its legal for them to even have a gun.

Quoting Chuck Bass:" While I agree, I think the same logic applies to schools as anywhere else. Someone who is willing to ... [snip!] ... Someone who is willing to actually shoot someone isn't concerned about whether or not its legal for them to even have a gun."

Yep, so the more people who legally carry (concealed and open carry require training and a permit), the less likely someone is going to get killed. If a gunman is shooting up a school and is presented with 10 people legally trained and carrying guns, they are more likely to stop their assault or be killed before they harm more people.

Quoting khigh:" Oh, and if you want a good thriller to read, look up UN Resolution Agenda 21. That will be our greatest loss of freedom."

I just glanced over most of it, but it almost doesn't seem real.