re: Israel

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" PLEASE! Terrorists hide among civilians. They ... [snip!] ... kill them? The Jews and Muslims got along pretty fine, as neighbors, before the zionists took over (from first hand accounts.)"

Again, how do you conduct war or defend your country when your opponenet hides behind women and children?
That region of the world has never been peaceful. You can debate who started it but the arguement will just go around in circles.

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" Again, how do you conduct war or defend your country when your opponenet hides behind women and children? ... [snip!] ... region of the world has never been peaceful. You can debate who started it but the arguement will just go around in circles."</blockquote>


Same way people always have- on foot and with spys, with large ammounts of people etc.
I am not anti guns and machinery, I am anti dropping bombs on a mother and father with their kids walking on the beach, when they had nothing to do with anything.

They fired at Jerusalem. 

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" Again, how do you conduct war or defend your ... [snip!] ... am anti dropping bombs on a mother and father with their kids walking on the beach, when they had nothing to do with anything."

This gave me a good chuckle.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" They are not defending themselves. They are the aggressors and they are also liars, who make up propaganda to bury the Israeli's (literally and figuratively)."

!!!!

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/116997/video-shows-palestinians-faking-injuries

Faking injuries.



^^^for clarity^^^

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" PLEASE! Terrorists hide among civilians. They ... [snip!] ... kill them? The Jews and Muslims got along pretty fine, as neighbors, before the zionists took over (from first hand accounts.)"

I was under the impression Jews and Muslims got along ok until Jihad became popular in Israel.

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggo.:</b>" I was under the impression Jews and Muslims got along ok until Jihad became popular in Israel."</blockquote>




Jihad is Muslim and popular among extremists.

Quoting meggo.:" I was under the impression Jews and Muslims got along ok until Jihad became popular in Israel."

At one point the "who started it?" question would have been important but it's not relevant to the solution right now. Until one side agrees to stop the violence and acknowledge that the other has a right to exist, the current conditions will persist.

Quoting TheNuge:" At one point the "who started it?" question would have been important but it's not relevant to the solution ... [snip!] ... one side agrees to stop the violence and acknowledge that the other has a right to exist, the current conditions will persist."

I completely agree.

I think Israel needs to acknowledge Palestine as a free state and if Palestine keeps acting a fool after that THEN Israel has a right to defend itself.

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggo.:</b>" I was under the impression Jews and Muslims got along ok until Jihad became popular in Israel."</blockquote>


Jihad is a part of our religion, and always has been. So no, you'd be wrong.