re: Israel

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" I thought the Smurrfes were trying to usher in the 12th Imam? What is your stance on Muslim countries saying that to bring in the end times, they must destroy Israel?"</blockquote>

Well, most shia sects are not considered muslim. You can't bring in a guy who has never been born. And he definetly won't be shia.

As for the need to destroy Israel in order to bring about the end of times, God doesn't need Israel gone for him to begin the day of judgement. I've also never heard a government say that in order for the end of days to take place Isreal must be gone. Though I wouldnt be surprised if Palestine said that.

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" I thought the Smurrfes were trying to usher in ... [snip!] ... say that in order for the end of days to take place Isreal must be gone. Though I wouldnt be surprised if Palestine said that."

Amadinejad is the one who said it. Supposedly, his mother is a direct descendent of Muhhamod.

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" ... [snip!] ... by a state against its own people."</blockquote> Is the US a terrorist state because of going after al Qaeda?"</blockquote>

No. For killing people for oil? Because they are Muslim? For dropping bombs on innocent civilians that would cause cancer for the people living and deformities for those who are not yet born-yes.

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>"



I didn't watch, but you speaking of a shia president. From Iran. Lol. You don't need to know more than that to know they are cr@zy

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Amadinejad is the one who said it. Supposedly, ... [snip!] ... watch, but you speaking of a shia president. From Iran. Lol. You don't need to know more than that to know they are cr@zy"

That we can agree on!

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" ... [snip!] ... bombs on innocent civilians that would cause cancer for the people living and deformities for those who are not yet born-yes."

You have a warped view of our military actions.

Back to Israel, how does tolerating nearly continuous lobbing of bombs get you put in the category of state terrorists?

<blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" ... [snip!] ... bombs on innocent civilians that would cause cancer for the people living and deformities for those who are not yet born-yes."</blockquote>




I actually agree with you.

What about President Morsi in Egypt?




http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/15/egypt-asks-us-to-stop-israel-gaza-offensive-warning-out-control-escalation/

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" You have a warped view of our military actions. Back to Israel, how does tolerating nearly continuous lobbing of bombs get you put in the category of state terrorists?"</blockquote>




It is a fact we do those things. To us, they seem terrorists because they kill our innocent people (and their own) and to them, were doing the same (and they're right). It's all about what side you're on. Also, you hear everyday about how another soldier has been killed but you rarely hear about the HUNDREDS of thousands of innocent people we kill.
IMO, it's all unnecessary and both sides are guilty.

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" You have a warped view of our military actions. Back to Israel, how does tolerating nearly continuous lobbing of bombs get you put in the category of state terrorists?"</blockquote>




Let's see. Taking over land that is not yours to begin with, kicking people out of homes and shooting entire families (I have met the people who survived this), allowing soldiers to shoot bombs into villages and also allowing the murdere of innocent children (and bombing of their schools). What else? Oh and again, killing the americans (white or dark,christian or muslim) who have gone there to help give relief to the people that israel is allowing starve and not have any medical supplies...yeah.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Ice Princess~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" You have a warped view of our military actions. ... [snip!] ... rarely hear about the HUNDREDS of thousands of innocent people we kill. IMO, it's all unnecessary and both sides are guilty."</blockquote>



Yes, I totally agree with this. If an innocent child,woman, or man dies it doesn't make it right, no matter who did the killing or what race they were.

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>"
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/15/egypt-asks-us-to-stop-israel-gaza-offensive-warning-out-control-escalation/"</blockquote>




I didn't read where they said that in order for the end of times to take place that israel must be gone.

Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" You have a warped view of our military actions. ... [snip!] ... rarely hear about the HUNDREDS of thousands of innocent people we kill. IMO, it's all unnecessary and both sides are guilty."

Killing for oil - are you refering to us defending Kuwait from Iraq?
When, in recent history have we called b/c of someone was muslim?
When have we, in recent history, intetionally dropped bombs that werent precisively targeted OR given lots and lots of advance notice that we were going to bomb?

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" What about President Morsi in Egypt? http://w ... [snip!] ... I didn't read where they said that in order for the end of times to take place that israel must be gone."

Right...just says that they should be eliminated.

Groovy.

Let's endorse mass murder of Jews. Seems fair.  

Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Ice Princess~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" ... [snip!] ... this. If an innocent child,woman, or man dies it doesn't make it right, no matter who did the killing or what race they were."

So, other than killing people in the military or terrorist-types, killing during war is can never be justified?