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Are natural pregnancies a thing of the past?

posted 14th Nov
What are your thoughts on this?

http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/pelletier20121113

Cutting-edge research around the world will soon launch a new era in human procreation – a world in which embryos can be ‘brought to term’ in artificial wombs, replacing traditional pregnancies.

In "Like a Virgin: How Science is Redefining the Rules of Sex," author and genetic scientists, Aarathi Prasad writes, "This might be the biological and social equalizer, a truly new way of thinking about sex."

Cornell University's Dr. Hung-Ching Liu has engineered endometrial tissues by prompting cells to grow in an artificial uterus. When Liu introduced a mouse embryo into the lab-created uterine lining, "It successfully implanted and grew healthy," she said in this New Atlantis Magazine article. Scientists predict the research could produce an animal womb by 2020, and a human model by early 2030s.

In Japan, Juntendo University researcher Yosinori Kuwabara and his team kept goat fetuses growing for ten days. While this womb was only a prototype, Kuwabara predicts that a fully functioning artificial womb capable of gestating a human fetus will evolve in the near future.

However, ethicists voice concerns that this technology could endanger the very meaning of life. Mother-child relationships, the nature of female bodies, and being 'born', not 'made' all play a role in defining how most people around the world view this magical state of existence called life. Artificial wombs will enable both men and women to reproduce entirely alone, removing intercourse from the reproductive equation.

But proponents believe people will reason, "Why risk gestating the baby in a biological womb, when this new science can produce a child with our exact genetic makeup, perfect personality, and zero flaws."

"The womb is a dark and dangerous place, a hazardous environment," says University of Virginia Professor Joseph Fletcher. Fetuses are 100% dependent on their mom's health and sensible judgment. If the mother falls prey to accidents, disease, or inadequate nutrition, the embryo can become traumatized.
Although naysayers believe that this bold science makes us less human, most experts predict that artificial wombs will one day be accepted by mainstream society as more people recognize its many benefits. Babies would no longer be exposed to alcohol or illegal drugs by careless mothers, and the correct body temperature would always be maintained, with 100% of necessary nutrients provided.

Concerns over losing emotional bond between mother and newborn are unwarranted, say scientists. Artificial intelligence advances expected over the next two decades will enable doctors to reproduce exact parent emotions and personalities via vocal recordings, movement, and other sensations. The developing infant would be maintained in a safe secure environment, connected electronically to the mother 24/7.

In the near term though, experts predict most women will probably gestate their children the old-fashioned way; but career-minded females might welcome a concept that allows them to bear children and raise a family without becoming pregnant, a physical condition that often weakens their job status.
Ultimately, this technology would enable anyone – single, married, male, female, young, old, heterosexual or gay – to combine DNA from his or her own body with another person; and the gene pool marches on; a clean birth without pain or morning sickness.

As this science matures, people could freeze eggs and sperm in their teen years when they are most physically fit; then create children later when ready for a family. Artificial wombs may sound radical, but people already donate eggs and sperm to create life in a lab and bring it to term in a surrogate mother.
In an unusual twist, this technology offers justification to pro-lifers in the abortion debates. Choosing an abortion to protect a mother's health would not be necessary, as artificial wombs could bring all aborted embryos to term. Unwanted pregnancies would no longer mean a death sentence for the unborn.
As we move into the future, this procedure could become the preferred method of birthing; but today, many disagree. Some see artificial wombs as a triumph of modern science; others believe it's the ultimate folly.

We ask again; is a sexless reproduction society in our future? Time will tell.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 14th Nov
whoa....
I think that is insane.. I suppose it would be great for those looking for a surrogate or something, i personally would never do it..
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I'm due October 14th, have 3 kids & live in Vacaville, California
posted 14th Nov
i would never do this i enjoy the pregnancy even the bad in it but its an amazing this to feel... but this could be good for woman who cant bring a baby to term on her own.. who knows.... our world is getting too crazy IMO
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I'm due March 2nd (a boy), have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Murrieta, California
posted 14th Nov
Quoting Alissa (lissapfa):" whoa.... I think that is insane.. I suppose it would be great for those looking for a surrogate or something, i personally would never do it.. "


Me neither. I cant imagine not experiencing childbirth.

I think that this will in turn create genetically superior children for the rich, and a whole bunch of issues will arise.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 14th Nov
 
That is scary
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Enfield, Connecticut
posted 14th Nov
Not only that, but saying to do it because they dont know if a mother can make responsible choices in pregnancy? If she can't do that, but we are still trusting her with a child?
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 14th Nov
If this does happen, we will definitely pay for it.
I think it's insane and we shouldn't be doing it.
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I have 1 child & live in Japan
posted 14th Nov
Aldous Huxley is loving this. lol
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 14th Nov
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" Not only that, but saying to do it because they dont know if a mother can make responsible choices in pregnancy? If she can't do that, but we are still trusting her with a child?"

wtf....women NEED to go through pregnancy and childbirth to form a bond and become ready to be mothers. I mean obvously there are cases of adoption and surrogacy but this is just taking things too far. If a women can't make the right decisions during pregnancy, she shouldnt be trusted with a newborn that she didn't even prepare for. Like, when I was 19 I was partying like crazy, drinking, doing drugs. Pregnancy completely changed me. If they don't go through that they'll be even MORE irresponsible.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Enfield, Connecticut
posted 14th Nov
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" What are your thoughts on this? http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/pelletier20121113 Cutting-edge ... [snip!] ... others believe it's the ultimate folly. We ask again; is a sexless reproduction society in our future? Time will tell."


for someone who can't have a baby on their own, or a healthy one on their own, maybe it's okay.

but for someone who just doesn't want to deal with pregnancy? no...if you want a baby, you should experience pregnancy if you can! nature is nature for a reason.
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I have 1 child & live in Arkansas
posted 14th Nov
Quoting Will☮Creedence:" wtf....women NEED to go through pregnancy and childbirth to form a bond and become ready to be mothers. ... [snip!] ... drinking, doing drugs. Pregnancy completely changed me. If they don't go through that they'll be even MORE irresponsible."

I think they say that they plan the mother's voice, mimic movement, etc.. that's great for the baby, but the mother needs to bond as well. Pregnancy is a HUGE part of this.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 14th Nov
sQuoting SaraSaraBoBara:" for someone who can't have a baby on their own, or a healthy one on their own, maybe it's okay. but ... [snip!] ... to deal with pregnancy? no...if you want a baby, you should experience pregnancy if you can! nature is nature for a reason."


THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm due March 2nd (a boy), have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Murrieta, California
posted 14th Nov
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" I think they say that they plan the mother's voice, mimic movement, etc.. that's great for the baby, but the mother needs to bond as well. Pregnancy is a HUGE part of this."

Yeah that's what I meant! The mother needs to experience pregnancy!
Not just go around partying and doing whatever they normally would then BAM here's a baby. Also what about breastfeeding?
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Enfield, Connecticut
posted 14th Nov
Quoting Will☮Creedence:" Yeah that's what I meant! The mother needs to experience pregnancy! Not just go around partying and doing whatever they normally would then BAM here's a baby. Also what about breastfeeding?"


Well if they cant be bothered to carry a fetus for 9 months, pretty sure breastfeeding is going to be a huge inconvenience. How sad.

ETA: Obviously I mean for those who choose this as an option because of their career/body, etc.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 14th Nov
That's pretty cool, but I want the joy of bringing my kids to the world physically, whether it is via C-section or vaginally, and I have to wonder how these machines would affect the bonding experience.
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I live in Ohio
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