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posted 14th Nov
http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/11/12/obamacare-jack-insurance-premiums

If you haven't already heard from your employer about open enrollment -- well, brace yourself. Premiums are high and rising. According to a survey from the National Business Group on Health, employers expect their health insurance costs to increase 7%. And, 60% of those employers plan to ask workers to pay higher monthly premiums.
Case in point, Wal-Mart stores - the Bentonville, Arkansas based retailer and the nation's largest employer - will ask employees to pay premiums that are eight% to 36% more next year. The company has said if you average costs over the more than one million employees who are covered - workers' contributions will rise just 4.4%. According to an Aon Hewitt survey, premiums will rise 9% on average nationally.
Wal-Mart says it is trying to cope with rising medical costs which make up a huge chunk of the retailer's costs. The company has gone so far as announcing the opening of six health centers where it will offer free heart and spine surgery to most employees.
Even so, many employees are expected to drop coverage because of the higher costs.
Wal-Mart's most popular associate-only medical plan will cost $17.40 per two-week pay period in 2013, up $2 from 2012. Average plan cost across the country is $79 dollars per month for single coverage. Wal-Mart's moves are seen as a blueprint for other employers who are trying to manage their costs while also preparing to meet the requirements of Obamacare.
Remember, health-care reform was supposed to keep costs low and quality of care the same or better. But increasingly, it's clear the industry is changing dramatically even before all parts of the law go into effect. What's more, the unintended consequences aren't good. Obamacare was supposed to ensure everyone gets covered while keeping costs low, but already Wal-Mart employees are saying they will drop out of company plans - meaning more people will burden emergency rooms. And costs aren't declining; they are rising.
You have to admire Wal-Mart for being so creative and so even-handed -- the brass in Bentonville are offered the same health plan as warehouse workers in Cincinnati, Ohio.
But the story exposes Obamacare for what it is -- a plan without a vision for doing what's needed.
Obamacare may be the law of the land. But it should be overturned.


You guys ain't seen nothin' yet.
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 14th Nov
Average plan cost across the country is $79 dollars per month for single coverage.



Mine is about 68.00 a week and will be going up at the beginning of the year!!!
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I'm due January 6th, have 2 kids & live in Prattsburgh, New York
posted 14th Nov
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/11/12/obamacare-jack-insurance-premiums If ... [snip!] ... doing what's needed. Obamacare may be the law of the land. But it should be overturned. You guys ain't seen nothin' yet."

I really hope there is massive revolt regarding this awful law that is a LIE.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 14th Nov
Hubby works for Wal- Mart we pay 130 a month for insurance, and our deductible is 5,000. Id love to drop it but independent insurance isnt any less expensive, at least not that Ive been able to find.
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I have 2 kids & live in Nevada
posted 14th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting *beck-i* {JAS08}:</b>" Average plan cost across the country is $79 dollars per month for single coverage. Mine is about 68.00 a week and will be going up at the beginning of the year!!!"</blockquote>


Yup. I pay $618 a month and just got my notice of increase...A WHOPPING 39%!

Thanks Ocrapper!
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 14th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I really hope there is massive revolt regarding this awful law that is a LIE."</blockquote>



In all seriousness....what THEE HELL are *we gonna do?
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 14th Nov
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting *beck-i* {JAS08}:</b>" Average plan cost across the country ... [snip!] ... year!!!"</blockquote> Yup. I pay $618 a month and just got my notice of increase...A WHOPPING 39%! Thanks Ocrapper!"

My mom is a teacher in GA, and before Obamacare rolled out she was paying 128$ a month for her family coverage. Since then it has went up to almost 500$ a month. Between what she pays and what the county pays on her insurance its up to nearly 2200 a month-up from around 600 a month when Obama took office.
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I have 2 kids & live in Okinawa, Japan
posted 14th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting * Kathrin *:</b>" My mom is a teacher in GA, and before Obamacare rolled out she was paying 128$ a month for her family ... [snip!] ... pays and what the county pays on her insurance its up to nearly 2200 a month-up from around 600 a month when Obama took office."</blockquote>


It's so sad that people who are for this Obamacare beast didn't understand what they were backing.

We are going to get completely buried by this bill. Anyone who isn't nervous...should be.
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 14th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I really hope there is massive revolt regarding ... [snip!] ... revolt regarding this awful law that is a LIE."</blockquote> In all seriousness....what THEE HELL are *we gonna do?"</blockquote>




I think we are effed until the Rs are in control.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 14th Nov
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" ... [snip!] ... all seriousness....what THEE HELL are *we gonna do?"</blockquote> I think we are effed until the Rs are in control."

But then, how do you "undo" the damage? Supreme Court Justices are just a few of the things that maniac can put in place.
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 14th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" But then, how do you "undo" the damage? Supreme Court Justices are just a few of the things that maniac can put in place. "</blockquote>




I suppose you just repeal and replace the law when more sensible people win elections.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 14th Nov
The only thing that they can do is defund it since the Rs have the House. But, to do that, they would have to pass a budget and I don't see that happening.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
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