re: Question about the US separating

Quoting ~**germaphobic**~:" Why are they saying that there will be a civil war?I saw a video my sister showed me and it says "

When someone says "cling to Jesus Christ" or suggest that the answer to any problem is religion, I immediately throw them on the non-credible list of a million other smurf heads with a youtube account.

I Dnt know much about any of this...but do you guys think that the president can declare martial law (sp) on the states that are trying to seceed?

*sorry for the spelling , i'm on my phone.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" When someone says "cling to Jesus Christ" or suggest that the answer to any problem is religion, I immediately ... [snip!] ... problem is religion, I immediately throw them on the non-credible list of a million other smurf heads with a youtube account. "</blockquote>




So this video isn't credible? I'm freaked out and confused at the same time..arghhh

Here's what The Blaze (Beck) says:
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/11/13/more-than-30-states-have-a-serious-secession-movement/
And, the TPNN (TEA party news network)
http://tpnn.com/talk-of-secession-heats-up/

This video was from 2009, but he replayed it today (He cried!):



This was also last time Texas wanted to go (Geraldo is an idiot):



Good article on it:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/some-respond-to-election-results-by-advocating-secession/

Just goes to show you that it isn't a new movement. The new videos should be on YouTube in a few days.

Quoting ~**germaphobic**~:" I Dnt know much about any of this...but do you guys think that the president can declare martial law (sp) on the states that are trying to seceed? *sorry for the spelling , i'm on my phone."

Obammy signed the Executive Order allowing martial law, detaining of American citizens, and taking of personal property.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

Here's Daniel Miller, the leader of the Texas National Movement:




I LOVE his analogy. He says the Union is like a marriage and making these states stay is like telling a spouse who is abused that he/she has to stay because they have a contract.

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Obammy signed the Executive Order allowing martial law, detaining of American citizens, and taking ... [snip!] ... property. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness"</blockquote>




Thx for the info! I can't believe he signed the excutive order allowing law does this mean he can take control of everything right now if he wanted to?

Quoting ~**germaphobic**~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Obammy signed the Executive Order allowing martial ... [snip!] ... believe he signed the excutive order allowing law does this mean he can take control of everything right now if he wanted to?"

Between that and the NDAA of 2012, the President has the authority to take over all systems from defense to travel to food and energy supplies. They are both extension of the Patriot Act which now allows the fed to illegally detain American citizens and hold them indefinitely if the fed determines you are a threat. On the list of threats? Veterans and TEA party members.

http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-classifies-returning-us-veterans-as-potential-terrorist-threat/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/homeland-security-funded-study-lists-people-reverent-of-individual-liberty-as-extreme-right-wing-terrorists/
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47991
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10209
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelreagan/2009/04/15/the_obama_administration_says_were_dangerous,_rightwing_extremists
Here's the NSA's list to watch for:

• Were born in the Deep South
• Believe that 9/11 was more serious than Watergate
• Wear an American flag in your lapel
• Knowingly listen to Rush Limbaugh
• Speak and write perfect English, but no Spanish
• Own more than two Bibles or one Confederate Flag
• Believe that Jesus Christ means eternal life
• Support the rule of law and maintenance of law and order
• Want America’s borders secured
• Believe that Mexico is a foreign nation and Spanish a foreign language
• Thank God that the U.S. won both world wars
• Oppose affirmative action, abortion, same-sex marriage, and gun control
• Believe that fighting higher taxes is more patriotic than paying them
• Prefer “Patriot’s Tea” to Obama Kool-aid
• Doubt that Islam is really a “Religion of Peace”
• Believe that a baby Jew born to a virgin 2009 years ago saved mankind from sin
• Send out Christmas cards
• Attend a Christian church on occasions other than Christmas and Easter.
• Sing the National Anthem with your hand over your heart
• Fly Old Glory on Flag Day and Independence Day
• Believe that preventing voter fraud is more important than empowering illegal aliens, felons, and the deceased with the vote
• Own a gun and ammunition.
• Favor the death penalty for brutal killers, but oppose abortion of innocent fetuses
• Miss WF Buckley, Ronald Reagan, and Richard Nixon
• Have read the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and U.S. Constitution more than once
• Believe that labor unions should be subjected to anti-trust laws.
• Have never committed adultery or had gay sex
• Drive a car built by an American car company in America
• Dispute the belief that the economic meltdown was worth it in order to open home ownership to more people of color
• Believe that the U.S. should spend more money on national defense than on foreign aid
• Suspect that Nancy Pelosi is dumber than a pound of recycled botox
• Mourn the 50 million fetuses that have been slaughtered since the Roe V. Wade ruling
• Pay a tithe or make a donation to any organized religion
• Are successful and prosperous and flagrantly show it
• Have never applied for food stamps or welfare
• Read the Wall Street Journal, George Will, Pat Buchanan, and Ann Coulter
• Watch FOX News
• Dislike Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and other communist dictators
• Know the words to “God Bless America” by heart
• Argue that global warming is little more than hot air circulated by liberals for “green” profit
• Want the UN out of America and America out of the UN

I have a serious question about all of this:

We are going to Disneyland in February - this smurf isn't going to screw up my vacation, is it?

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mommy of a giggler!:</b>" I have a serious question about all of this: We are going to Disneyland in February - this smurf isn't going to screw up my vacation, is it?"</blockquote>




Likely not. America has been talking secession for 150 years and Texas has filled for it 89 times.

Quoting khigh:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mommy of a giggler!:</b>" I have a serious question about all ... [snip!] ... it?"</blockquote> Likely not. America has been talking secession for 150 years and Texas has filled for it 89 times."

Fantastic! Now I can go back to being the happy, friendly neighbor, eating my poutine and shivering in my -20C weather lol

First off the states that are looking to leave, are the states that use the most government help, I think someone said I can see some states standing on their own? First off who do you think helps fund public schools, oh that is right taxes which are from were kids? The government! Were do you think clinics will go if they are no longer funded? They leave.. Were do you think women who need WIC assistance or crisis housing or domestic violence help will go? Oh they will leave too since they are not funded, and the state can not afford to fund everyone in there standings of poor. So that being sad not only does the states that are trying to leave owe to much money when these signatures are presented ( if they are ) to the white house they will laugh and say NO! If a civil war breaks out let it happen, here is the deal if they want Capitalism at its fullest let these states take it on and offer there people no help fend for themselves no helping from the rich to give to the poor, and see how long there states last No more social security or medicare or caid... so forget about any seniors being able to afford medications.. In closing if a state did choose to leave they would be stupid, no help from the government ( when your state uses so much) is crazy no FEMA no National Guard nothing... It would be very scary for those people and soon they would come begging to go back to the world in which we live.. You know the reality that things are changing and people are tired of the GOP and there over religious selves looking to only look out for those who make more than 1 percent of the united states.. Remember half of all you stay at home, and I know half of you get some sort of government assistance via the earned tax income, the child tax credit, WIC, TAFT, Welfare, SS, SSI, medicaid or care, and if you do, you need to be thanking Obama not leaving Obama's side do not bite the mouth who feeds you!!!!

Ohhh sweetie...That was cute! You have some of us mistaken. Some of us feed ourselves, why some of you have Obama ( tax payers) feed you. That little rant however that made no sense at all was very entertaining.

Quoting Brandi Powell:" First off the states that are looking to leave, are the states that use the most government help, I think ... [snip!] ... medicaid or care, and if you do, you need to be thanking Obama not leaving Obama's side do not bite the mouth who feeds you!!!!"

I can't read something that long and condescending.

Come back and speak like an adult if you want to participate.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Brandi Powell:</b>" First off the states that are looking to leave, are the states that use the most government help, I think ... [snip!] ... medicaid or care, and if you do, you need to be thanking Obama not leaving Obama's side do not bite the mouth who feeds you!!!!"</blockquote>



Doesn't look like school did you any good.