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fair or no

yes
 
75% (18 votes)
no
 
25% (6 votes)

re: fair or no

posted 9th Nov
from what i remember some where and some werent
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I have 2 kids & live in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:" There is no fair here,.IMO. What happened was a.tragedy but sje did not mean to kill those girls and I'm sure they were egging her on, I know my friends would have."


!!

she didn't set out to murder anyone, and will live with this for the rest of her life. it's a tragedy all around
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I have 4 kids & live in Georgia
posted 9th Nov
but this is the thing that really pissed me off too in wis each felony is a diff class ok i was with people that robbed a gasstation that i didn't know they where going to do so this is the felony i got
CLASS C FELONY



For a Class C Felony, the penalty is a fine of up to $100,000, or imprisonment of up to 40 years, or both; however, for a repeat offender, the term of imprisonment may increase up to 2 years with prior misdemeanor convictions, and up to 6 years with a prior felony conviction

but for killing 3 people this is what she got
CLASS G FELONY



For a Class G Felony, the penalty is a fine of up to $25,000, or imprisonment of up to 10 years, or both; however, for a repeat offender, the term of imprisonment may increase up to 2 years with prior misdemeanor convictions, and up to 6 years with a prior felony conviction

can some one please tell me how that is fair i had no idea what they were up to when her being the driver did...
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I have 2 kids & live in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
posted 9th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting Alicia Holz:</b>" but this is the thing that really pissed me off too in wis each felony is a diff class ok i was with ... [snip!] ... conviction can some one please tell me how that is fair i had no idea what they were up to when her being the driver did..."</blockquote>




Because what she.did was an accident. You were just dumb.
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I live in Maine
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Alicia Holz:" she was going 85 mph when she hit a bump on some rail road tracks cause she was trying to jump them and ... [snip!] ... truck instead...to me an accident is hitting a piece of black ice.hitting a deer not going 85 to see if i can jump the tracks"
They are kids. They were smurfing around. While it's sad that her friends died, she didn't mean for them too. It's not like she was drunk or high. You can't tell me you never did dangerous smurf at one point in your adolescent life. You best believe this girl will never live a normal life after this. I am sure she is suffering enough. It was a horrible accident that went way wrong.
quotesmurfs?
I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Montego Bay, Jamaica
posted 9th Nov
but i had no idea she was going 85 mph she damn well knew what she was doing...yes i had people telling me go faster go faster i always tell them no cause i'm in control....
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I have 2 kids & live in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Alicia Holz:" but this is the thing that really pissed me off too in wis each felony is a diff class ok i was with ... [snip!] ... conviction can some one please tell me how that is fair i had no idea what they were up to when her being the driver did..."
Oh stop. She didn't have any idea the truck would crash and people would die. You however knew you were riding with scum who was capable of doing some stupid illegal smurf.

Get over yourself.
quotesmurfs?
I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Montego Bay, Jamaica
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Just Ames:" They are kids. They were smurfing around. While it's sad that her friends died, she didn't mean for them ... [snip!] ... will never live a normal life after this. I am sure she is suffering enough. It was a horrible accident that went way wrong."

actually while driving no cause when i first started both my parents said do anything stupid and we will make sure you spend the rest of your life in jail and knowing my parents its something they would have done...
quotesmurfs?
I have 2 kids & live in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
posted 9th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting Alicia Holz:</b>" but i had no idea she was going 85 mph she damn well knew what she was doing...yes i had people telling me go faster go faster i always tell them no cause i'm in control...."</blockquote>


You sound so dumb right now, honestly. And bitter.
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I live in Maine
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Alicia Holz:" actually while driving no cause when i first started both my parents said do anything stupid and we ... [snip!] ... and we will make sure you spend the rest of your life in jail and knowing my parents its something they would have done..."
Your parents couldn't have made sure you spent your life in jail.

DERP

You type like a smurfing idiot.
quotesmurfs?
I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Montego Bay, Jamaica
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Alicia Holz:" but this is the thing that really pissed me off too in wis each felony is a diff class ok i was with ... [snip!] ... conviction can some one please tell me how that is fair i had no idea what they were up to when her being the driver did..."

Because she was charged with negligent homicide not murder. She didn't plan to kill anyone and she wasn't under the influence. Don't get me wrong, if it were MY child that had died I think I'd be screaming injustice but it would be from grief. Looking at it logically the ruling was fair IMO.
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I have 3 kids & live in Olathe, Colorado
posted 9th Nov
sorry but if this was my kid i would want her to get more or at least more communty service not only 100 hours maybe more to have her teach other kids
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I have 2 kids & live in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
posted 9th Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting Alicia Holz:</b>" sorry but if this was my kid i would want her to get more or at least more communty service not only 100 hours maybe more to have her teach other kids"</blockquote>




You don't get to decide that.
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I live in Maine
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Alicia Holz:" sorry but if this was my kid i would want her to get more or at least more communty service not only 100 hours maybe more to have her teach other kids"

Force her to teach other kids. OR How about, she learns from what happened and does it on her own, which would be 100x more effective.
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I'm due December 25th (a girl) & live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
posted 9th Nov
Quoting Alicia Holz:" sorry but if this was my kid i would want her to get more or at least more communty service not only 100 hours maybe more to have her teach other kids"
Derp, ditty derp derp
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Montego Bay, Jamaica
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