Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" At last glance, Romney won the popular vote. The electoral college should not be abolished. ALL states ... [snip!] ... election. Electoral votes should be by county. It still works, it just needs tweaking according to population changes."

The last I was reading and heard, Obama won the popular vote.. I've seen it both on CNN and FOX news. I could be wrong though?

<blockquote><b>Quoting katxo:</b>" The last I was reading and heard, Obama won the popular vote.. I've seen it both on CNN and FOX news. I could be wrong though?"</blockquote>



No, you very well could be right. That was just the last I checked.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting katxo:</b>" The last I was reading and heard, Obama won the ... [snip!] ... FOX news. I could be wrong though?"</blockquote> No, you very well could be right. That was just the last I checked."

I still live in a state, for the past 8yrs still doesn't have their votes together. lol. We are still yellow. Joy. haha

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" At last glance, Romney won the popular vote. The electoral college should not be abolished. ALL states ... [snip!] ... election. Electoral votes should be by county. It still works, it just needs tweaking according to population changes."

I agree that if we are using an electoral system, then states should be able to split their votes accordingly.

BUT, I still think popular vote should rule. Why tell the county that each and every vote counts when it doesn't? Popular vote system = EVERY vote counts.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Chuck Bass:</b>" I agree that if we are using an electoral system, then states should be able to split their votes accordingly. ... [snip!] ... should rule. Why tell the county that each and every vote counts when it doesn't? Popular vote system = EVERY vote counts. "</blockquote>


Because electoral votes are derived from the popular vote, cast in the primaries. We all got two votes for president. That's why the primary election is so important.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Chuck Bass:</b>" I agree that if we are using an electoral ... [snip!] ... the popular vote, cast in the primaries. We all got two votes for president. That's why the primary election is so important."

Pretty sure electoral votes are derived from the number of representatives that each state has in the House, based on population, plus two per state for their senators.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Chuck Bass:</b>" Pretty sure electoral votes are derived from the number of representatives that each state has in the House, based on population, plus two per state for their senators."</blockquote>



They are. That's true. But logically, whoever a particular state nominates in the primaries is who wins that state in the general.

That leads me to local elections and how important THEY are. Your* state reps are also elected. Todays mayor or congressperson could very well be a presidential nominee at some point. People need to choose wisely because the person they elect as their "voice" is going to take that voice all the way to Washington, KWIM.

We have a tiered government that SHOULD provide checks and balances, overall. It SHOULD work because it's a brilliant system............if politicians were honest. But because they aren't and politics is a game of greed and power, the very people you* elect could turn on you* for money or power.

I think there is one thing that we can all agree on and that is that power can be bought. There is no integrity left in politics.

On a side note, although I don't agree with all you say, you really are level headed and informed. I very much appreciate that about you.

<blockquote><b>Quoting empire state of mind:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ★Momma Dee★:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... NY always goes Blue."</blockquote> Haha I bet you do since Obama won again."</blockquote> You bet I do what?"</blockquote>



Smh, hate the electoral college now

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Chuck Bass:</b>" Pretty sure electoral votes are derived from ... [snip!] ... although I don't agree with all you say, you really are level headed and informed. I very much appreciate that about you."

I understand what you mean. However, it isn't necessarily true that whoever a state votes for in the primary elections is who the electoral votes will go to in the end. Even blue states vote in the Republican primary, and vice versa. FL, OH and CA, all major blue states with more than the average number of electoral votes, went for Romney in the primary elections. Even in years (like 2016) when there are primaries for both parties, each state will have one nominee for each party.

Quoting Bogey Woman:" No reason to be snarky. We had already established that the votes weren't all counted yet. I KNOW that Obama won popular vote."

Sorry just dont have the time to read through every post.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ★Momma Dee★:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting empire state of mind:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... do since Obama won again."</blockquote> You bet I do what?"</blockquote> Smh, hate the electoral college now"</blockquote>



I always hated it. I didn't vote for Romney FYI