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The purpose of college.

posted 1st Nov
I'm writing a really big paper on this and am trying to see everyone's opinions on the matter so, help me out?

What do you feel is the purpose for college?
Why do you think so many students enroll and then drop out?
Why do people think it's necessary to go to college?
Are teachers to blame, just the students, both, or none at all?

You do not only have to answer those questions feel free to include ANYTHING you want to.
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I'm due August 19th (it's a surprise), have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Clinton Township, Michigan
posted 1st Nov
Honestly... One of the reasons I never went to college is the debt. Even after you graduate, most likely you still won't find a job and now your in a worst position than when you started.
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I have 1 child & live in New Paltz, New York
posted 1st Nov
Quoting Devil's Advocate:" "

Exactly! hahaha. I'm lucky enough to not have any loans while I'm in college.
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I'm due August 19th (it's a surprise), have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Clinton Township, Michigan
posted 1st Nov
To get a piece of paper stating that you are "qualified" in that area which is a load of BS  
I enrolled because it was expected of me. I dropped out because it wasn't what I expected of it.
From what I gather they think its necessary because without that paper you're SOL on job searching. Yet someone with 20+ yrs experience and no degree can't get a job because a fresh out of college kid has the paperwork saying they know this stuff.
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I have 1 child & live in New Orleans, Louisiana
posted 1st Nov
I am a college student:

What do you feel is the purpose for college?
To further education and thus have the ability to make more money. Hopefully in a field that you enjoy.

Why do you think so many students enroll and then drop out?
Finances, not knowing how hard it is, not having the want/need to push through.

Why do people think it's necessary to go to college?
Because they think that everyone should be educated, I don't believe this my SO has his High school diploma and is making 15 dollars an hour right now. As much as I will be making after I have my degree.

Are teachers to blame, just the students, both, or none at all?
It can be both. I have had teachers that weren't there to help students that didn't "understand" why people couldn't understand things. And who was not all that willing to help other than the resources that she had already given to us.

I have also had fellow students who never come to class, who always talk about going out to bars the night before a test, who talk about not studying for a test.

It isn't always both but it can be either.
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I have 1 child & live in Minnesota
posted 1st Nov
Purpose: education and life experience.
Drop out why: life happens or they're not ready for the responsibility. It's tough.
Why necessary: idk and I don't really think it is at all.
Nobody is to blame. Smurf happens. Bad teachers and bad students exist.

Would elaborate but I'm on my phone.
quotesmurfs?
I have 10 kids & live in Georgia
posted 1st Nov
When I went to college for fash design, itwas. Private school, once I was *in* the school already got their money *40,000* a year, so teachers were kinda *dickish* I got the feeling no1 cared, most of the time we were in class while teachers sat and stared at us like we were suposed to teach ourselves. Lol, students went in for fash design expecting to be able to get a job for dior, and didn't know how to use a sewing machine or a simple stitch...

They glamorized the degree, and no1 expected to *actually work*

When I went for nursing, no1 could barely speak english, I'm shocked at some people who actually passed the boards... they get this license and don't even know how to change a bed with a pt. In it... they just want to walk in and pump drugs...

I'm 27 now, 21, when I finished my fash design, 24 when I finished my nursing, and I'm a bartender making more money then I did with either of those degrees.
And looking for another field to get into... and I hate school   lol
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I have 3 kids & live in California
posted 1st Nov
I went and am still currently going to college because I want a job that is going to pay at least 40k a year so I live comfortably and take care of my kids on my own without having to get help. I do it for the security and in doing so I have chosen to do medical degrees because there is always a need for medical personnel, good insurance, mostly 12+ hr. shifts so depending on your major you could only have to work up to 3 days a week which leaves more time to spend and enjoy time with my kids.

There is also ways to minimize debt a lot of companies as long as you are enrolled in a degree that will benefit their company can and will pay up to 75% of your tuition depending on your grades as well as grants and scholarships.

I know not all grads will be able to find a job in their chosen field but I don’t plan on staying in the state I am currently living after my degree so finding a job will be a little easier for I will not be tied to one location.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Texas
posted 1st Nov
The purpose of college for me is to better myself, become educated, and hopefully in the future be successful, yes it does not guarantee a job but for me personally I feel that it gives me a better chance than if I wasn't going.
I think many students enroll and then drop out because maybe they didn't really want it and just enrolled because of pressure and also because some students aren't ready they still need to have a hand held throughout the process and college isn't like that. I think people think it's necessary to go to college because now in the world there is no room for unskilled labor, (labor that most people can do) in the world, you need skills to get a job. I think that no one is really to blame but maybe in high school they should prepare students more for the real world so it's a easier transition.
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 1st Nov
why I went to college? To get a good job
why drop out? smurf happens/couldnt keep up w grades
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Kansas City, Missouri
posted 1st Nov
Quoting InkDMomma:" I'm writing a really big paper on this and am trying to see everyone's opinions on the matter so, help ... [snip!] ... the students, both, or none at all? You do not only have to answer those questions feel free to include ANYTHING you want to."


I have a little different of a view on college... so I'll share.

What do you feel is the purpose for college? - Honestly? I really don't see why every profession basically forces you into having a degree now adays. To be a doctor, nurse, etc. I'm all for it, don't get me wrong. But to work in an office, you need a business degree? Ridiculous. I think you should get hired based on an interview and what you know, not necessarily because someone has a degree. If they want you to know more than you do, have training classes. Obviously not EVERY profession is like this, but most truly are. I think degrees are held on way too high of a pedestal now adays.

Why do you think so many students enroll and then drop out? - I personally did for a family emergency. I transferred from a school I was living at to a community college I could commute to when my father's wife left him. It was a bad situation, and I just had to move home to help him. Then I got pregnant with Owen, and my new family took presidence.

Why do people think it's necessary to go to college? - Like I said, in most careers, I don't. Obviously if you want to be a doctor or something like that, you need specialized training. If you are holding other people's lives in your hands, you need to have the right training.

Are teachers to blame, just the students, both, or none at all? Blame for what? Failing? It depends. Is it three students in a class of 100 failing? Or is it 10 out of a class of 14? Because if it's 3 out of 100, I say it's the students. If it's most of the class, it's the teachers.
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I have 1 child & live in Quincy, Massachusetts
posted 1st Nov
Why do people go to college?
Social pressures.
Why do people drop out?
Because they can't afford it. They aren't college material meaning they don't have the self motivation to do the work and their grades show it, or they don't have the time.
Why do I think it's necessary to go to college?
I don't . I know many financially successful people that actually got that way by working hard.

I'm a college graduate and now a stay at home mom, so my degree has been of no use for me. The top level jobs that I had before children were earned by hard work and promotions and not because of my degree. I did acquire additional knowledge, but I continue to do that on my own by reading. So in my case college wasn't necessary to better my life, but hey... I can tell my kids I have a degree. Does that make me special?
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I have 3 kids & live in USA
posted 1st Nov
<blockquote><b>Quoting Devil's Advocate:</b>" "</blockquote>




Lol exactly!
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I have 1 child & live in Indiana
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