Dealing with multiple losses - could use some cheering up
posted 14th Oct
Hey everyone. I'm having a bit of a hard time lately. I am currently 5w3d along, and I had a loss at seven weeks last October, and a loss at seven week again this past March. The second loss was particularly rough, as I'd had an U/S at 6w5d that showed everything was great - heard the heartbeat and everything. Less than 24 hours later I had *completely* miscarried - sudden cramping, clots, everything. At my U/S two days later there was nothing there.
I'm currently taking a topical progesterone, my normal prenatal vitamins, a baby aspirin and an RX folate because I tested positive for MTHFR and a prothrombin gene mutation, although the Dr said that he felt that both of those, for me, were so mild that he didn't feel they warranted any action - that I could take the extra stuff just to feel better. I've done a fair amount of research, and it seems to say that while some doctors suspect their may be a link between these issues and m/c, there isn't conclusive proof either.
Anyway - like I said, I'm pregnant again and I feel pretty certain this is probably going to end in m/c as well. I don't have any of the symptoms I had at this time with my one living child (my first pregnancy, which was a healthy pregnancy from start to finish). I know that they say all pregnancies are different, but that really doesn't mean much. With my son I had substantial morning sickness very early on, and with my two losses, I had nothing. With this one, I don't feel anything.
It's like my uterus has suddenly become hostile. Like the embryos are not able to implant properly or something. If this pregnancy ends, I suppose the next step is to try to see a specialist, but I am so down about it all right now I almost just want to give up and not even bother with a doctor until I'm well into a pregnancy next time around. Everything that they can do, I can do at home, but without the expense, you know? Going to the doctor lately has just cost us money and hasn't given us any reassurance.
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I'm sorry for your losses, mama. I know how you're feeling. It's terrifying to be pregnant when you've had several losses. It's hard to stay positive. I've had 3 miscarriages and I just learned that I have MTHFR, plus clotting factors and a progesterone deficiency. I'm currently TTC, and I've put myself on a baby aspirin, progesterone cream and 2000 mcg of folic acid. Once I become pregnant (if I do), my doctor will switch me to progesterone suppositories and Lovenox injections. Have you talked to your doctor about Lovenox (or Heparin) injections? It's not 100%, but I've heard a lot of positive stories of women who had multiple losses than maintained a pregnancy with injections. I hope you get a sticky baby this time around. If you ever need to talk, I'm here for you.
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<blockquote><b>Quoting komnumep:</b>" Hey everyone. I'm having a bit of a hard time lately. I am currently 5w3d along, and I had a loss at ... [snip!] ... home, but without the expense, you know? Going to the doctor lately has just cost us money and hasn't given us any reassurance."</blockquote>
I'm taking all those drugs (and a couple others) but I have NO diagnosis (they have NO idea why I keep losing babies), so we don't have a clue if the meds will help at all. I've lost at 6, 12, 4, 15, 23, and 9 weeks and am 7.5 weeks now. I know the fear and worry too well.
At least with you, you DO have a diagnosis and treatment plan. With having MTHFR, I'd ask about switching to Lovenox instead of just baby aspirin. And switch to progesterone suppositories if your doc will prescribe it. Those medications will make your chances of a healthy pregnancy MUCH higher. You know what's wrong so you know how to fight it!!!
Do your research and ask all the questions you can and keep pushing your doc to do all he can!!! Make him explain why he wants you to do certain treatments and not others!!!
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I wish you both lots of luck.
I've just had 2 losses in 4 months. The second being the hardest. We won't be TTC again until at least March. I have no idea what my doctor will want to do, since we don't know what caused the m/c before.
I'm kind of hoping that the time will allow my body to readjust after having the Mirena for 2 years and not bleeding.
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My doctor brought up Lovenox, and if I lose this one as well I suppose it's something we will discuss. I'm hesitant to go on it if my clotting issues are fairly minor. With my first son I was able to see my midwife and deliver him naturally at a birth center, and I haven't given up the hope that I could do that again. My CNM can still see me as long as the issues can be managed with baby aspirin. If I need injections I have to see the back up obgyn, have to be induced, and so on. If it turns out that that's what I *have* to do, I'll do it, but not until it seems like there are no other options.
I have a friend who has two healthy pregnancies, and then three losses at 12-15 weeks, and is now 23 weeks along in her sixth pregnancy. She actually didn't test positive for any of the gene mutations I did, everything came back normal, but she told me she's taking a high dose of folate and 3 baby aspirin per day. With her three losses she said she just took the one. Don't know if that's got anything to do with her keeping this one so far, but if it works...
It's just so hard with m/c because even though we seem to have so much information about so many things, no one has any idea what to do about losses. It makes me sick that some women have to wait until three or more losses to even have these tests run - my doctor was quite kind and offered them to me after my second.
Thank you for the kind words.
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Quoting komnumep:" My doctor brought up Lovenox, and if I lose this one as well I suppose it's something we will discuss. ... [snip!] ... even have these tests run - my doctor was quite kind and offered them to me after my second. Thank you for the kind words. "
Personally, I wouldn't want to wait for another loss. If my OB would've suggested Lovenox after my second loss, I would have given it a try. I would've jumped at the opportunity to save myself additional heartache.
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The reason I didn't was because the doctors gave me no indication it was needed or would help anything. He honestly told me that it was his belief that baby aspirin would be more than enough considering the mutation was so mild. He also said that there was also no way to prove the mutation had any factor in the miscarriages anyway, or that taking it would prevent a m/c any better than an aspirin.
I'm not one to rush to the most dramatic medicinal treatment if there isn't an indication it's actually needed. I really feel like these miscarriages are unrelated to that.
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I haven't told DH this yet, but I think if we have another loss, I'm getting my tubes tied.
I believe that everything happens in 3s, and 3rd times a charm. So if after 3 times of actively trying it doesn't happen, it's not meant to.
With Heathen, we weren't trying but not preventing. We knew it could happen, and were prepared if it did. It did, and she'll be 4 soon.
I don't think I can handle trying and losing again
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Quoting komnumep:" The reason I didn't was because the doctors gave me no indication it was needed or would help anything. ... [snip!] ... treatment if there isn't an indication it's actually needed. I really feel like these miscarriages are unrelated to that."
Maybe you're right. I wish you the best.
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Quoting Pirate Hooker {BAMW}:" I haven't told DH this yet, but I think if we have another loss, I'm getting my tubes tied. I believe ... [snip!] ... it could happen, and were prepared if it did. It did, and she'll be 4 soon. I don't think I can handle trying and losing again"
That's how I'm feeling right now. I've decided to give it one more shot. If it doesn't happen this time around, then I'm done. I give up.
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Quoting Squeaky McGee:" That's how I'm feeling right now. I've decided to give it one more shot. If it doesn't happen this time around, then I'm done. I give up."
Much luck to you
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