re: D and D

Thanks ladies! I was kind of expecting this to get dramatic by the time i got back...wasnt sure how it would go.
but i was hoping for some more responses from people on the other side. maybe its not a popular topic? or just too borderline?

idk these debates lately irritate me but get me thinking.

Quoting cunning cuniculi:" Thanks ladies! I was kind of expecting this to get dramatic by the time i got back...wasnt sure how it ... [snip!] ... other side. maybe its not a popular topic? or just too borderline? idk these debates lately irritate me but get me thinking. "

well im pro life, and slightly pro abortion. not that Id personally get one. But i think they are great. aboriton is needed thats for sure. so thats why i coulndt really answer.

Quoting cunning cuniculi:" Thanks ladies! I was kind of expecting this to get dramatic by the time i got back...wasnt sure how it ... [snip!] ... other side. maybe its not a popular topic? or just too borderline? idk these debates lately irritate me but get me thinking. "

Prolifers aren't received very well here. There are plenty of long time prolife BG members but most of them know better than to attempt to enter a debate on it. It's a shame that the culture of BG's D&D is so hostile because hot button topics like abortion are generally one-sided. There's not much debate in that.

Quoting ☮ Phuket:" well im pro life, and slightly pro abortion. not that Id personally get one. But i think they are great. aboriton is needed thats for sure. so thats why i coulndt really answer."

that means you are pro choice by definition, and not many people are pro abortion anyway....if i were to nitpick...

Quoting cunning cuniculi:" that means you are pro choice by definition, and not many people are pro abortion anyway....if i were to nitpick..."

whats the actual defenition of pro abortion?

i dont claim to be that usually, i just think its a neccisary thing to have in todays world.and that its a good thing to have.

Quoting Uh-milly'Yuh:" Check out this batsmurf crazy-ass insane woman. http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2008/02/is-ivf-wrong_02.html"

That woman is a fry short of a happy meal.  

Does she mourn her unfertilized eggs each month?!
She is taking this smurf to the extreme. Seriously!

Quoting ☮ Phuket:" whats the actual defenition of pro abortion? i dont claim to be that usually, i just think its a neccisary thing to have in todays world.and that its a good thing to have."

no, you dont have to be pro abortion, just not wanting to take that away from other women, which is what you are. you dont have to ancourage anyone to get one or even that that choice is right for them, and many women who are pro choice would never get an abortion but still would not want to take that choice away.

proabortion is more like...idk i would think someone that wants to encourage people to get abortions for whatever reason. I could see this if someone thought the population was a big issue...or like...China.

Quoting Mrs Mia Wallace:" That woman is a fry short of a happy meal.   Does she mourn her unfertilized eggs each month?! She is taking this smurf to the extreme. Seriously!"

She probably cares a lot more about other women's unfertilized eggs than her own, since she wants to be all up in their uterus and all.

<blockquote><b>Quoting bbbt:</b>" Women who've had abortions are not murderers.. "</blockquote>




I never thought I would have an abortion and I don't appreciate people using the term murderer my baby had no lungs due to a chromosomal defect it would have died in uterero or as soon as it was born I also think people who have invitro are not playing god.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" well im pro life, and slightly pro abortion. not that Id personally get one. But i think they are great. aboriton is needed thats for sure. so thats why i coulndt really answer."</blockquote>




You can't say that till your in that postion

Quoting cunning cuniculi:" Couple questions on abortion, please keep it civil ladies, Just interested in what your thoughts are ... [snip!] ... God has a plan- Does a woman that chooses to abort ruin Gods plan? Or is it Gods plan that she would come to end the life? "

I have had a zillion rounds of IVF. We finally got our beautiful baby, but many embryos didnt make it. I spent a great deal of time thinking about this topic. I consider myself pro-choice but with lots of restrictions. I dont think abortion is murder but there is no way around saying that it is taking a life.
The question of when life begins is fuzzy. To me, it's somewhere around the time that the embryo implants firmly and has a functioning placenta.
As said in another post, many embryos die in women without their being any knowledge. It's just what happens.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Uh-milly'Yuh:</b>" Prolifers aren't received very well here. There are plenty of long time prolife BG members but most ... [snip!] ... of BG's D&D is so hostile because hot button topics like abortion are generally one-sided. There's not much debate in that."</blockquote>



I would probably comment on this thread about my views, but I'm tired of being ganged up on for my pro life views.

My baby is not going to make it. I still would never terminate her. In my eyes I would murder my child. Not my decision to make. I have seen her little feet, head, arms, fingers, she is perfect to me. I will not rip her out of me cause she has 3 chambers, and kidneys are not forming. I will hold her in my arms and a few months  ,,If others would terminate then thats their business

Quoting mamaluvsher4babies:" In my eyes its just a legal form of murder, just like the death penalty. I have friends who had abortions. ... [snip!] ... abortions. They are still my friends. Like I said I have my own sins to ask for forgiveness. What others do is their business."

Who the hell would keep a murderer as friend?  

Quoting * Sara *:" Who the hell would keep a murderer as friend?  "

and the ones who protect us are allowed to commit a legal form of murder also..and every single one of my friends who have ha abortions all will admit they killed their children and would never do it again.