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Detailed Sex Ed in middle school

posted 8th Oct
This is a topic on our local news and just wondering people's thoughts.

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- What should schools teach their students about sex? That was at the center of a very packed school board meeting Monday night.

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The Cy-Fair school district is changing its sex ed curriculum and parents don't like what their children may be seeing. The controversy took center stage at the school board's Monday meeting, with some parents detailing which parts of the video they're uncomfortable with.
A student picking out condoms is just part of the sex ed program that's been approved for seventh- and eighth-grade students by the Cy-Fair ISD school board. There are also scenes of hooking up.
"I think it's soft porn when they have a girl on the couch and she says, 'Let me help you put the condom on,'" said parent Mayte Weitzman.
Three Cy Fair ISD middle school moms with whom we spoke are outraged over the district's new sex ed curriculum for 7th and 8th graders.
"It is shocking to me when I sit and look at this and find myself having to tell my 12-year-old some of these concepts," said Mindy Lucas, parent of a seventh grader.
It's called "It's your Game, Keep it Real," a two-year program with videos with specific language about sex and featuring real-life scenarios about contraceptives.
"The only way you can be with me is if we use condoms," an actor in one of the videos said.
And cartoons with talking condoms and instructions.
"I don't need the school district showing my student how to put a condom on," parent Christine Kalmbach told us.
According to a booklet parents received from the district, the course defines both sexual intercourse and abstinence as they relate to pregnancy prevention plus it also focuses on sexually transmitted diseases. These parents call it graphic and too much, too soon.
"When we get into the details of these very inappropriate lessons with the different types of sex, that belongs in the home with our moral values," said Weitzman. "They're teaching them oral, anal and vaginal sex. They're teaching them all kinds of sex. They're not focusing on the abstinence."
Others disagree.
"Children now a days are having babies at 12 and 13 so they need to know," said parent Tanya Manjarrez.
"We have to give them that info. They need to be aware as much as it may hurt us, but they need to be aware," another parent told Eyewitness News.
Despite numerous requests, the district would not speak to Eyewitness News on camera but says parents can choose to opt their kids into the entire class, parts of the classes or completely opt out.
"Every bit of this program, even the name of it, is disrespectful so we're opting completely out," Weitzman said.
The district points out that the curriculum was approved by a subcommittee made up of a group of parents before the school board unanimously approved it during the summer break. The program is scheduled to kick off October 24.

There are also 2 videos
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8839820

A person also commented in the commenting section earlier (Sandra something) that it even goes into detail on using LUBE!
quotesmurfs?
I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Houston, Texas
posted 8th Oct
I absolutely agree w/ this. 12 yrs old is not too young to be learning about sex.
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I have 2 kids & live in Colorado
posted 8th Oct
Quoting £egendary Zeppelin:" I absolutely agree w/ this. 12 yrs old is not too young to be learning about sex. "

I don't either but I don't think telling them about lube should be in there. lol I do feel sex education needs to be taught more in depth in middle school. I remember in 8th grade my friend was big and pregnant then in high school she had more.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Houston, Texas
posted 8th Oct
i think they should lean at this age. because 12 year olds are having sex today.

i was confused...they really show the kids the porn they explained in the beginning of the topic? lol sorry. im so tired.
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Quakertown, Pennsylvania
posted 8th Oct
The same parents freaking out over it, are likely the same parents who WON'T be talking about it at home. Seriously. 7th and 8th grade...kids need to know.

I'm very pro-sex ed...age-appropriate, early,adapted and repeated as the child grows, more than just abstinence, and you can bet I'll be teaching it in the home. I won't be afraid of what the school is teaching him because he'll already have had the facts at home.
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I have 1 child & live in Utah
posted 8th Oct
Quoting Mel & a girl named Pey:" I don't either but I don't think telling them about lube should be in there. lol I do feel sex education ... [snip!] ... taught more in depth in middle school. I remember in 8th grade my friend was big and pregnant then in high school she had more."

I see nothing wrong w/ lube either. The problem is people wanting to keep sex ed out of schools   I took a human sexuality course in college & it was fascinating. Also, a bit sad how much I never learned. There's really a lot more to it than the actual 'sex' part.
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I have 2 kids & live in Colorado
posted 8th Oct
Quoting Adriana'sMombie:" i think they should lean at this age. because 12 year olds are having sex today. i was confused...they ... [snip!] ... i was confused...they really show the kids the porn they explained in the beginning of the topic? lol sorry. im so tired."

It wasn't actually porn from what I could tell. It was two teens on a couch (back to the "camera" (it was a cartoon) with their bare shoulders showing and they were having the convo about the condom. That Sandra lady said the girl leaves pissed off cuz the b/f can't use the condom properly. lol
quotesmurfs?
I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Houston, Texas
posted 8th Oct
Quoting £egendary Zeppelin:" I see nothing wrong w/ lube either. The problem is people wanting to keep sex ed out of schools   I ... [snip!] ... it was fascinating. Also, a bit sad how much I never learned. There's really a lot more to it than the actual 'sex' part. "

I almost wonder if it was spermicidal lube they were talking about which is an important one if the teens decide no condom. You should see the book my mom bought at the thrift store last week. It was pretty shocking to see because it was naked people and all about sex and pregnancy in a kids book. It was kind of shocking knowing the book is out there but not a bad thing. lol
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Houston, Texas
posted 9th Oct
Eh, it doesn't bother me. My kids will know a majority of this once they hit 5th grade. In 8th grade a girl in my class was popping out her first kid, had another kid her freshman year, and a thrid kid by her senior year. My sisters 12 year old friend was pregnant 4 times in 3 years. The more my children know about safe sex, no just abstinence, the better IMO!! I want my kids to be safe, I'm not oblivious to the facts that children have sex. I know I wont know when and if my child is having sex but at least I know I will have given them every opportunity I could to learn about safe sex.
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I have 2 kids & live in Arizona
posted 9th Oct
Quoting Milk Monster:" Eh, it doesn't bother me. My kids will know a majority of this once they hit 5th grade. In 8th grade ... [snip!] ... and if my child is having sex but at least I know I will have given them every opportunity I could to learn about safe sex."

Yeah I am the same way! I am pretty honest with my daughter and my niece. Although my daughter hasn't asked anything yet but she knows babies come out of a woman's vagina. lol She told me she was pregnant and reached into her panties and pulled out an invisible baby. SMH Crazy kid!
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Houston, Texas
posted 9th Oct
I honestly just hope that I will always have honest open communication with my daughters. I don't want to restrict them and tell them they can't do it, because it will just make them want to do it behind my back, and I'd rather they talk to me about it then want to hide it from me. Teens are having sex at younger and younger ages, and it's important for them to know about SAFE sex instead of telling them just to be abstinent, because they will still do it whether we teach them abstinence or not. And I would rather my kids know about safe sex then to do it and not be safe about it.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Spokane, Washington
posted 9th Oct
Quoting Milk Monster:" Eh, it doesn't bother me. My kids will know a majority of this once they hit 5th grade. In 8th grade ... [snip!] ... and if my child is having sex but at least I know I will have given them every opportunity I could to learn about safe sex."

I hope to have a relationship with my son like typical Dutch parents do...not the typical American parent-child relationship. Even if he chooes not to tell me, I'd like him to feel safe enough to do so, and be educated enough to be safe in what he does.

I saw a documentary on this a few months back...it was fascinating.
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I have 1 child & live in Utah
posted 9th Oct
Quoting Mel & a girl named Pey:" Yeah I am the same way! I am pretty honest with my daughter and my niece. Although my daughter hasn't ... [snip!] ... woman's vagina. lol She told me she was pregnant and reached into her panties and pulled out an invisible baby. SMH Crazy kid! "


LMAO my kids are only 2 and 7 weeks but my husband is upset that I am teaching my son his penis is a penis and not a "pee pee".  

I plan on teaching my kids everything I can about how to be safe and such. I don't want to shelter them too much. I want them to know they can come to me for anything without worrying about getting in trouble, I want them to feel safe. Not scared.
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I have 2 kids & live in Arizona
posted 9th Oct
I think more schools should do this. My 14yr old niece just had a son. Some kids think oral/anal dont count as sex. Abstinence only leads to sex as the forbidden fruit, the more we say wait the more curiosity kids feel. Sex is everywhere any ways...
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I'm due April 23rd (it's a surprise), have 3 kids & live in California
posted 9th Oct
Quoting Autumn Whisper:" I hope to have a relationship with my son like typical Dutch parents do...not the typical American parent-child ... [snip!] ... do so, and be educated enough to be safe in what he does. I saw a documentary on this a few months back...it was fascinating."

That's what I want. I want my kids to know they can come to me without being worried about getting in trouble. I want them to feel safe, not feel scared to come to me about something as important as birth control or drugs. KWIM?
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I have 2 kids & live in Arizona
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