Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" I would have fought anyone to the death that I loved myself fat. But I didn't. And I didn't know ... [snip!] ... lost the weight. So HONESTLY not until I was ACTUALLY healthy. But I had convinced myself that I loved myself back then too."

I would postulate that because you loved yourself, you saw that change was required in your life in order for you to be happy. I could be wrong. I'm not you  
Being fat and happy doesn't mean that I'm happy because I'm fat. It just means that I am fat in this moment, but I'm also happy as well. I'm making healthier choices in my life in the pursuit of health but do not think I should be unhappy in the present.
I think a lot of the misunderstanding occurs because of semantic definitions.

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" I would have fought anyone to the death that I loved myself fat. But I didn't. And I didn't know ... [snip!] ... lost the weight. So HONESTLY not until I was ACTUALLY healthy. But I had convinced myself that I loved myself back then too."

So if you lost your health (illness or something) you'd be unable to love yourself anymore? Your love is 100% dependent on this idea of health as you see it? That you have to be that specific weight and energy level in order to love yourself?

Also, some people are happy being fat and love that.... so who am I to judge.

I, personally, am going to choose happiness whatever weight my body decides to gravitate to.

Quoting she nan igans:" So if you lost your health (illness or something) you'd be unable to love yourself anymore? Your love ... [snip!] ... on this idea of health as you see it? That you have to be that specific weight and energy level in order to love yourself?"

How sad. I would love myself regardless of my weight because weight comes and goes, happiness is a work in progress.

Quoting * Sara *:" How sad. I would love myself regardless of my weight because weight comes and goes, happiness is a work in progress."

This.

I'm not healthy. I'm in pain most days right now, and I may NEVER be healthy no matter what my weight is. I'm working on healthier activities because I do love myself. However, love and happiness isn't depending on my weight, or even my health. If it were I might never be healthy enough to be "happy" and that is a depressing thought.

I may try to change, to adapt better lifestyle changes, but that doesn't mean I can't be happy NOW, that I can't love myself NOW, without qualifiers.

Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" I would postulate that because you loved yourself, you saw that change was required in your life in ... [snip!] ... do not think I should be unhappy in the present. I think a lot of the misunderstanding occurs because of semantic definitions."

It sounds like you are saying you are fat.
And you are happy.
And those two things are completely unrelated.
So you can be fat, you can be happy, and you can be unhealthy for instance.

But they why the posts?

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" It sounds like you are saying you are fat. And you are happy. And those two things are completely ... [snip!] ... completely unrelated. So you can be fat, you can be happy, and you can be unhealthy for instance. But they why the posts?"

Because a lot of people feel that being fat excludes people from being happy.

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" It sounds like you are saying you are fat. And you are happy. And those two things are completely ... [snip!] ... completely unrelated. So you can be fat, you can be happy, and you can be unhealthy for instance. But they why the posts?"

For the reasons you've questioned this post. Many of your statements imply that you cannot love yourself if you are fat. You MUST be unhappy if you are fat.

It's not about being happy BECAUSE I'm fat. It's about being happy regardless of my weight. It's about weight and size NOT being a qualifier for happiness.

Quoting she nan igans:" For the reasons you've questioned this post. Many of your statements imply that you cannot love yourself ... [snip!] ... I'm fat. It's about being happy regardless of my weight. It's about weight and size NOT being a qualifier for happiness."

I just think it would be time better spent on a message "happy with who I am" People don't just hate their weight. So if your message is being happy regardless of your body then lets be happy regardless of our financials, our hair color, our acne, our stretch marks, our whatever

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" I just think it would be time better spent on a message "happy with who I am" People don't just hate ... [snip!] ... of your body then lets be happy regardless of our financials, our hair color, our acne, our stretch marks, our whatever"

That's like saying that People shouldn't have support groups for chronic pain. Or for cancer. Or messages of self acceptance targeted at gay people. The fact is that there are subsets who need that message. OP has realized that body weight is a HUGE factor in peoples opinion of their self worth, so she tailors that message to that problem.

There is a fit and happy daily post too now. There are others. You are welcome to start one. Hers is directed at a problem she has personal experience with, thus it's a message targeted to a specific group.

The fact that, again, people fight against THIS idea so hard is the reason there need to be posts like this. Because people are CONSTANTLY told they can't be happy, or love themselves, if they are fat. That's pretty much what you said. That's why people need to be reminded that they can, in fact, love themselves even if they're fat. That they are STILL worthy of that love and acceptance.

Quoting she nan igans:" That's like saying that People shouldn't have support groups for chronic pain. Or for cancer. Or messages ... [snip!] ... reminded that they can, in fact, love themselves even if they're fat. That they are STILL worthy of that love and acceptance."

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fat-and-Happy:</b>" I think this quote explains it well: “If you begin to understand what you are without trying to change it, then what you are undergoes a transformation.” ― Jiddu Krishnamurti"</blockquote>



Loveee the quote  

I LOVE THAT QUOTE! I may need to print it out and post it by my mirror or something.

My husband gained a good bit of weight since we got together. Do I love him any less for it? Absolutely not. Thus why should I love myself any less just because I've gained some weight over the years. I'm still the same person, just have a bit of extra flub. It doesn't mean I suddenly don't deserve love/respect/happiness/etc. It just means I need to start loving myself better and treating myself better. (Most of the weight was gained because I was depressed and ate junk without moving around a lot).

I LOVE the quote!

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" I agree that skinny does not equal healthy, always. But I also disagree that fat is ever healthy. I still do not understand. But that's fine."

Honestly, I cannot take any opinion you have on what's healthy seriously. When someone resorts to surgery one has to question the validity of their arguments about "Oh, I wasn't happy before then I had surgery and it's alllllll better".