Quoting Jays*Mama:" You are just starting to sound dumb. No point in arguing with you."

You want the government to steal the money from other people, you don't want to have to do all the work stealing it yourself?

<blockquote><b>Quoting Jays*Mama:</b>" Im not exactly poor and i still get grant money. I dont think making a total of 70k a year is poor. But sure. And we do pay taxes. It goes by how much you make and how many people are in your house."</blockquote>




Uhhh... You make $70k and are complaining about not getting help.
Something is wrong here.
Really. Are you just messing with us?

If not, and if the guidelines were revised downward, it was a very good move.

The problem in our economy is not that we don't have enough college graduates. We need more good jobs.

Quoting Jays*Mama:" Im not exactly poor and i still get grant money. I dont think making a total of 70k a year is poor. But sure. And we do pay taxes. It goes by how much you make and how many people are in your house."

70K a year, and the government has to pay for your school stuff? Damn. We bring in about 25K a year if that and we still pay for a chunk of mine out of pocket.

<blockquote><b>Quoting EpicThunderCat!:</b>" Eh, a lot of what Romney said were lies from what fact checkers are saying. I am not sure about that ... [snip!] ... now and was preciously above since before Obama came into office! So that is pretty cool. The information just came out today."</blockquote>



You're kidding me, right?

Quoting Jays*Mama:" Im not exactly poor and i still get grant money. I dont think making a total of 70k a year is poor. But sure. And we do pay taxes. It goes by how much you make and how many people are in your house."

You make 70K a year and you are pissed because the government wont pay for your school (or all of it)

hahahahahahahaha.

Either you REALLY suck at money management skills...or you need to find a cheaper school.

Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" The fact that you love Obama so much and then say that you also like Gary Johnson makes me think you are quite clueless about this whole thing. Glad Obama gets your panties wet."

 

It really makes you wonder....

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mother of One plus One:</b>" I am not voting this year because I don't really like either of them. But, I think Obama gets a bad rep ... [snip!] ... economy isn't HIS fault and I think A LOT of people blame him for that. If romney gets it there we are smurfed,I do believe."</blockquote>



What do you not blame G.W. for?

If you think for one second that B.O. is a victim if his circumstance, you are dead wrong.

Do yourself a favor and look at the Clinton years. Then, come back and tell me all about "Bush's mess".

In addition, I'm no G.W. fan. No child left behind, The Patriot Act....I could go on about what he did wrong. Fact is, B.O. WORSENED an already flailing economy. The economy is still dismal and unemployment/underemployment is climbing.

Hyper-inflation is taking hold and you and I are getting squeezed. Food prices are skyrocketing. Gas prices are outrageous. Violence in the Middle East is frightening. Our credit has been downgraded....twice.

Yeah, B.O. is fabby!

Quoting Jays*Mama:" Then no one is going to be able to get actual really good jobs. Then there is going to be even more people without jobs."

One thing i really dont agree with Obama on is the Dream act

Quoting *...*...*...*:" You make 70K a year and you are pissed because the government wont pay for your school (or all of it) ... [snip!] ... (or all of it) hahahahahahahaha. Either you REALLY suck at money management skills...or you need to find a cheaper school."

I have bills, 2 cars, a house payment, and 2 kids. I never said i expect all my college to be paid for. Im happy with how it is now. Most of my schooling is being paid by student loans...i dont get that much financial aid.

Quoting Jays*Mama:" I have bills, 2 cars, a house payment, and 2 kids. I never said i expect all my college to be paid for. ... [snip!] ... for. Im happy with how it is now. Most of my schooling is being paid by student loans...i dont get that much financial aid."

Then it shouldn't be too hard for you to do without that little bit of help.

Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Then it shouldn't be too hard for you to do without that little bit of help."

Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach to entire colleges and tell everyone how they shouldnt be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point....

<blockquote><b>Quoting Jays*Mama:</b>" Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach ... [snip!] ... be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point...."</blockquote>




You do know that if the gubment quit subsidizing colleges, tuition would plummet and MORE people would be able to afford it.

Anything subsidized by the government inflates the price.

Quoting Jays*Mama:" Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach ... [snip!] ... be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point...."

Why not? Because you don't NEED it.

Just because you can...Doesn't mean you should.

Quoting Jays*Mama:" Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach ... [snip!] ... be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point...."

Yes, that would be truly tragic if we asked people to go work and earn money to pay for the things they wanted in life.

Quoting TheNuge:" yes, but a thinking liberal would see that he is for the individual and not for big government. I ... [snip!] ... would impact the lifestyles of the poor so dramtically. I wonder if they read or listen to anything beyond abortion and drugs."

You are stereotyping and it makes you sound dumb as hell. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion, don't assume people don't do research just because you disagree with them and yes I do research myself. My thinking is that I am all for a third party. Giving something new a change regardless of whether or not I completely agree with it is fine to me. I am completely open to that! I have seen nothing but real hate spouted from conservative republican extremists...In my personal opinion. Plus, we need change. Why not try something new.

I am perfectly fine with Gary Johnson AND Jill Stein. I read facts. I am not one of those idiots that just watches the main stream media all day and calls it good. I go out of my way to research and find legitimate information.
I even look up the opposing sides. I freaking watched the speeches at the RNC for christ sake. I make sure to look at both sides of the spectrum and for ME personally, Obama is who goes with my views a lot more but I am open to others ideals and Gary Johnson sounds like a good thing especially over Romney. Romney is god awful.

Romney scares me because he doesn't even know what HE stands for:



Not the most professional site but explains exactly what happened at the debate if you ask me:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139926/-Romney-Won-Using-a-Debate-Technique-Called-the-Gish-Gallop

I don't like the way Romney talks, acts, flip flops, looks, talks about the American citizens, wants to cut funding to important programs. I don't like anything about the guy. He irks me to no end, especially after reading all the facts. No thank you. :] I could post a million more links but it wont prove anything to someone whom is on the opposing "team". You do what you will and I will do what I will but I am not fond of Romney at all especially since the unemployment rate is getting better. It takes time for these things to appear just as Clinton stated in his DNC speech. I am happy with America at the moment.
I would actually like to get even more liberal though. Honestly, I like the way France is for the most part. They have some flaws but I love their healthcare, schooling, healthy foods.