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"Lack of Love" kills babies?

posted 3rd Oct
So I was in my anatomy class last night, and my teacher was talking about a study done in London before ethics laws and such, at an orphanage. Half the babies were put in a control group who got held while feeding, loved, touched, nuzzled, etc. And the other half were left mostly unattended. Bottles propped for feeding, no eye contact, no speaking, no cuddling, nuzzling. She said most of those babies died from failure to thrive. I can't find the actual study, but I found this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/how-orphanages-kill-babie_b_549608.html that is similar to what she was saying. My question is, are all failure to thrive cases caused by "lack of love" from parents? I'm assuming they're not, but it is strange.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Modesto, California
posted 3rd Oct
They have recreated it a bunch with chimps, and found the same results.



Incredibly sad




Failure to thrive is not always due to a " refrigerator mother" or whatever the 70's term was.. There are always cases of out liars
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I have 1 child & live in Albligen, Switzerland
posted 3rd Oct
My question is why the hell would they do a study like that if the babies could die?
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I have 1 child & 3 angel babies & live in Vancouver, British Columbia
posted 3rd Oct
<blockquote><b>Quoting 1st1ontheway:</b>" My question is why the hell would they do a study like that if the babies could die?"</blockquote>




The first sentence is it was done before ethic boards existed
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I have 1 child & live in Albligen, Switzerland
posted 3rd Oct
Im sorry but WTF. I can't get over them doing that. Poor babies.
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I have 3 kids & live in AMITE, Louisiana
posted 3rd Oct
Sad!

I can see it. I mean, I think it was 60% of people who died during surgery were given bad news moments before they entered surgery.
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I have 2 kids & live in Quetzaltenango, Guatemala
posted 3rd Oct
Quoting 1inpink2inblue:" Im sorry but WTF. I can't get over them doing that. Poor babies."

I agree, and I'm sure this is one of the reasons ethics boards now exist..
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Modesto, California
posted 3rd Oct
Didn't they do that durring the holocaust too?
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I have 1 child & live in Japan
posted 3rd Oct
Quoting Whiskey.Tango.Foxtrot.:" Didn't they do that durring the holocaust too?"

I don't know, I'm sure they did. I really wish I could find that study though. I'll ask one of the girls in my class because she said she had read it, and I'll try and find it and post it later tonight.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Modesto, California
posted 3rd Oct
Yes, I can see that being true....but not all children will die/fail to thrive, it just they far more likely to.

Just like if a baby is kept in the complete dark during their 1st year, that child will never be able to see.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in ?
posted 3rd Oct
No, I don't think it's true.

Well, I mean that ALL cases are caused by that. Can it cause that? Totally. But not all.

Failure to thrive just means they are not growing as they should. Some catch up on their own, some are found to have intolerance's or vitamin deficiencies. There are SO many reasons it could occur, and sometimes it can just be the way a child grows too.

I feel like saying they're all caused by that is silly. Death also occurred in many of the cases, not not all cases of death are caused by lack of parental love. Incompetent cervix causes preterm labor, but not all preterm labor is caused by incompetent cervix. Know what I mean?



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I live in ?
posted 3rd Oct
<blockquote><b>Quoting Whiskey.Tango.Foxtrot.:</b>" Didn't they do that durring the holocaust too?"</blockquote>


Probably. They did a lot of really, really smurfed up "research".

I'm certain that "failure to thrive" is not always caused by lack of love....

Neglecting a child though will actually stunt brain growth and cause mental disability. I find that quite fascinating.... Very sad too of course.... But its interesting how much depends on the quality of care and the love we receive as infants and toddlers.
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I have 1 child & live in Moncton, New Brunswick
posted 3rd Oct
Quoting Baby Mutilator Barbie™:" I don't know, I'm sure they did. I really wish I could find that study though. I'll ask one of the girls ... [snip!] ... I'll ask one of the girls in my class because she said she had read it, and I'll try and find it and post it later tonight."

I'm pretty sure they did cause that's the first and only time I've heard of this until now. It's so sad and hearbreaking. But interesting at the same time. Like what you said in your OP. Is lack of love the facter to problems with kids?
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I have 1 child & live in Japan
posted 3rd Oct
Quoting Zbornak:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Whiskey.Tango.Foxtrot.:</b>" Didn't they do that durring the ... [snip!] ... too of course.... But its interesting how much depends on the quality of care and the love we receive as infants and toddlers."

I agree with this.
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I have 1 child & live in Japan
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