re: Lower abortion limit

Quoting baking my bun:" I agree with you and I would do the same but sadly there are a lot of women that would let people control them like that."

totally off topic here but............. OMG YOUR FROM PLYMOUTH?! my grandma lived there (she died) and my uncles live there and my dads whole family are from there, dad also supports plymouth argyle. i live in perth australia now but did live in teignmouth (not sure if you would have heard of it) and am coming back with my 6 month old in 4 weeks to see all my family  

Quoting Becky☮Will:" Ec<blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" Why will people feel completely different ... [snip!] ... meet them .You NEVER fully realize what it's like. Once you have one kid, you know better what the next one will mean to you."

I have a child, I am still EXTREMELY pro-choice. Any woman, for any reason, should have the option to terminate a pregnancy.

Quoting FroggysMommy:" You know what also bugs me? The fact that abortion is so expensive so people wait to afford the smurfing ... [snip!] ... finances and not being in the right place in your life to have it.... yet they charge out the ass for abortion. It's asinine."

Well it is a medical proceedure and taking that into consideration, I do not think abortions are THAT expensive. $400-$700 dollars is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than having a child. Not to mention if they were $50 a lot of women wouldn't even use birth control.

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" Well it is a medical proceedure and taking that into consideration, I do not think abortions are THAT ... [snip!] ... is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than having a child. Not to mention if they were $50 a lot of women wouldn't even use birth control."

true story.

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" Well it is a medical proceedure and taking that into consideration, I do not think abortions are THAT ... [snip!] ... is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than having a child. Not to mention if they were $50 a lot of women wouldn't even use birth control."

So where are the women who live paycheck to paycheck supposed to get that 400-700? They shouldn't be denied an abortion because they cannot afford one. And not all insurances cover it.

Quoting Becky☮Will:" <blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" You know what also bugs me? The fact that ... [snip!] ... in your life to have it.... yet they charge out the ass for abortion. It's asinine."</blockquote> Abstinence is free"

And that's just unrealistic

Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" So where are the women who live paycheck to paycheck supposed to get that 400-700? They shouldn't be denied an abortion because they cannot afford one. And not all insurances cover it."

So people who can scrounge up $400 should pay it, and then people who say they can't shouldnt? I mean you have to charge for medical services, sorry but abortions aren't free. They shouldn't have to give you one because you can't afford it.....

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" So people who can scrounge up $400 should pay it, and then people who say they can't shouldnt? I mean ... [snip!] ... for medical services, sorry but abortions aren't free. They shouldn't have to give you one because you can't afford it....."

And you shouldn't be forced to carry a child you don't want becasue you cannot afford to terminate.

There should be better programs out there to assist women with the cost of an abortion. (I have never looked into if there are programs to help with the cost so I don't know what is out there right now)

if anything, it should be income based, or on a sliding scale.

Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" And you shouldn't be forced to carry a child you don't want becasue you cannot afford to terminate. ... [snip!] ... help with the cost so I don't know what is out there right now) if anything, it should be income based, or on a sliding scale."

Perhaps. But at the same time, what if I told you your income was going to be based on how much money your customers had? You can set your cost at $500 for your service, but if an unemployed person comes in, you get $10.

That's not really fair to the people who own/operate/perform at a clinic. Any clinic.

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" Perhaps. But at the same time, what if I told you your income was going to be based on how much money ... [snip!] ... person comes in, you get $10. That's not really fair to the people who own/operate/perform at a clinic. Any clinic."

No it's not. But that is where gov't funding comes in to make up the difference.

Quoting ♥ axel sean n me:" there is also another type of abortion that is for further along and its a sort of salt solution thats put on the baby , im not going to go into what it does but its incredibly disturbing and sad."

from what I understand they dont do that one anymore because it was uneffective.

Quoting FroggysMommy:" Not everyone finds out then. Seems kind of bullsmurf to be all "Oh you didn't know about the pregnancy... ... [snip!] ... the child, and as for adoption, it's great but it is no ones job in life to be a breeding horse for those who want to adopt."

Yes, well, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of women know they are pregnant by the time they are finished with their fourth month of pregnancy (sixteen weeks).

And yes, protection fails, but to abort something that could live outside the womb is murder in my HUMBLE opinion. I think four months is more than enough time for a woman to find out she is pregnancy and decide whether she wants to have the baby or not.

Quoting Yurvette [♥]:" I agree. Even with assisance It would have been 98 dollars second time around... and I didnt have that. Needs to be cheaper. Its crazy.."

You think 98 dollars for an abortion is expensive? WTF?

<blockquote><b>Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:</b>" I have a child, I am still EXTREMELY pro-choice. Any woman, for any reason, should have the option to terminate a pregnancy."</blockquote>



I'm pro choice as well. You obviously missed her and I's side conversation where she was saying how she really started to love her baby around 20 weeks and I said it'll be different once you have a child, that the next time you'll love the baby even more right from the start.
We weren't even directly talking about abortion, I just said I forgot what it was like when I was pregnant with my son but now that I have a child I get attached to the baby when I'm pregnant even faster. I told her that I had a miscarriage at 9 weeks and it devastated me because my baby had died whether I was 9 weeks or 20 weeks.

Quoting Smartass *TNTC*:" Well it is a medical proceedure and taking that into consideration, I do not think abortions are THAT ... [snip!] ... is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than having a child. Not to mention if they were $50 a lot of women wouldn't even use birth control."

Yes!