Forums > Debate & DiscussPage 1 <> 64by: Sophia's Mommy♥

14-year-old kills her baby.

Charge her as an adult
 
72% (115 votes)
Charge her as a juvenile
 
20% (32 votes)
Other
 
8% (12 votes)

re: 14-year-old kills her baby.

posted 3rd Oct
Quoting Mrs. Nesbitt:" she did the best she could as an unassisted 14 year old CHILD and giving birth in her bathroom. it doesn't ... [snip!] ... she's mentally unstable, huh? mentally ill, and now being tried as an adult, which she is NOT. she is a child. the end."


I agree, but at the same time, I don't want her just let out at 18, either, because if she is this mentally ill, she shouldn't just be let out on her own, which would happen if she is charged as a child, likely be out at 18.
quote
I'm due May 31st (a girl), have 11 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 3rd Oct
Quoting LolaMcKitten:" I agree, but at the same time, I don't want her just let out at 18, either, because if she is this ... [snip!] ... mentally ill, she shouldn't just be let out on her own, which would happen if she is charged as a child, likely be out at 18. "

but if she is found mentally ill, they wont just let her out. she will be required to get the mental help she needs before let out.
and even if she's charged, and let out at 18, I'm sure she'll be on probation, where she will have to check in, and have several check ins with a doctor..
quote
I'm due November 4th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Kansas City, Kansas
posted 3rd Oct
<blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs. Nesbitt:</b>" she did the best she could as an unassisted 14 year old CHILD and giving birth in her bathroom. it doesn't ... [snip!] ... she's mentally unstable, huh? mentally ill, and now being tried as an adult, which she is NOT. she is a child. the end."</blockquote>




You sure have a lot to say about everyone's opinion.. I was 16 when I got preg & 17 when I had my son.. Your still considered a 'child' at that age too and now a days 14 yr olds are just a mature as a 17 yr old & I knew exactly what I was doing, I also not once ever thought about killing my child.. However it is also the mothers fault since she wasn't more there for her daughter but then again when I was preg my mother kicked me out & my dad wasn't very supportive with it either & that didn't make me think about killing my child & not seek medical care!

& since you feel so sorry for this girl.. How do u explain ER not having any type of emotions while talking about the situation? It was okay for her to hide the baby in a shoe box? You don't think she would have known better? She wasn't 4 she was 14! By that age I believe your in 7th grade in middle school... So I def think she was a big enough girl to know not to strangle her baby & dump it in a shoe box ..
quote
I have 2 kids & live in Easton, Pennsylvania
posted 3rd Oct
Quoting Brandi Coughlan:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs. Nesbitt:</b>" she did the best she could as an unassisted ... [snip!] ... grade in middle school... So I def think she was a big enough girl to know not to strangle her baby & dump it in a shoe box .."

cool story?
I was 15 when I got pregnant, and 16 when I had him. I'm not justifying what she did. I'm just saying its not as black & white as everyone is trying to make it seem.
yes, she killed an infant. then hid it in a shoe box. the just screams child. why hide it, and not get rid of it? that is a child like thing to do.
and good for you. at 14 you wouldn't have done what she did. but are you her??
no.
do you have something so mentally wrong with you that you'd even consider doing so? no.
this girl clearly did.
and I find blame in the parents, and family as well. as I've clearly stated several times, they ignored her baggy clothes, sweaters in the summer, and believed a child who took tests in private.
she IS a CHILD. you are not an adult until 18 for a reason.
her brain, as well as mine at 15/16. and yours as 17 isn't fully developed. and wont be until mid twenties at the latest.
quote
I'm due November 4th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Kansas City, Kansas
posted 4th Oct
<blockquote><b>Quoting Sophia's Mommy♥:</b>" A 14-year-old girl allegedly strangled her newborn baby while his umbilical cord was still connected, ... [snip!] ... should be charged of course, but should she be charged as an adult or as a juvenile? Just curious on what you ladies thought."</blockquote>
quote
I live in Japan
posted 4th Oct
<blockquote><b>Quoting Lilbit2shy:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Sophia's Mommy♥:</b>" A 14-year-old girl allegedly strangled ... [snip!] ... course, but should she be charged as an adult or as a juvenile? Just curious on what you ladies thought."</blockquote>"</blockquote>

That girl needs to be charged as an adult she knows what she did was wrong that she went out of her way to hide the fact she was preg and I'm sure the hole time she was trying to figure out away to get rid of the new born child. God just saying new born child makes me want to cry so bad for that baby boy. :..( that is no way for any child to come into this world it didn't even stand a chance it's like a horror movie that u wish if u were there u could stop it and save the child from being hurt. That girl deserves so much for what she did. Put her in jail or even prison and she will be dead!!! We all know that some way justic will be served even if it's not with the courts. She don't deserve to live her life when she took one that didn't even stand a chance that child... God this is so sad OT hurt I can't even amagine what would go though a new borns mind but to see its mother for the first time to put with the voice it heard for 9 months. I'm done I can't texts anymore about this I feel for this child this is why I wonder if there's a god cause if so how the hell could he allow this to happen.... Why Lord?????
quote
I live in Japan
posted 4th Oct
Quoting Lilbit2shy:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lilbit2shy:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Sophia's ... [snip!] ... for this child this is why I wonder if there's a god cause if so how the hell could he allow this to happen.... Why Lord?????"

There isn't a God that's why.
We need to rely on each other for support and throwing a child into jail won't solve a smurfing thing.
I don't give a smurf about everyone saying she needs to be charged as an adult you can't just chose if someone is an adult or not even though LAW says she is a child. Yeah, what she did was smurfed up - we know that - people are capable of doing mental things through fear. So, the little girl was terrified and messed up big style - let's just get rid of her! That is very very bad logic.
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Plymouth, United Kingdom
posted 4th Oct
I see more dumb bitches have jumped in.
quote
I have 2 kids & live in United Kingdom
posted 4th Oct
Quoting baking my bun:" There isn't a God that's why. We need to rely on each other for support and throwing a child into jail ... [snip!] ... fear. So, the little girl was terrified and messed up big style - let's just get rid of her! That is very very bad logic."

cuz ya know... throwing a CHILD into prison is going to stop the next string of murders.....  
it sure will teach her something too........
quote
I'm due November 4th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Kansas City, Kansas
posted 5th Oct
charge her as a child.

or smurf, if you charge her as an adult at least allow her the option to smoke a cigarette.
quotesmurfs?
I live in Illinois
posted 5th Oct
I read through some of this, and some of the responses are just mind boggling.


I do not understand how someone could think a child is deserving of the death penalty. She is a 14 year old kid without a fully developed brain. I am going to guess she generally knows right from wrong, and knows that killing someone is permanent and that it is wrong. However I can not say what her state of mind was. I can't say if she is mentally unstable, has a mental illness, or is just a cold hearted girl who felt like killing her child.

If people think that 14 year olds should be tried as adults, and face the consequences the same as adults. Then why should they not have the same rights as adults? They should be able to drive, drink, smoke, have sex with any adult, live on their own, enlist in the military, go backpacking through Europe by themselves etc. But the fact of the matter, is 14 year olds are not responsible enough and are not fully developed enough to be able to do those things.

She should not be tried as an adult and she should most likely not spend the rest of her life in jail. I don't think she should just be able to go home and pretend nothing happened. But the punishment needs to be suitable for her, and I am willing to bet part of it should probably include some intensive therapy, and evaluations of her progress throughout the course of the therapy.
quote
I have 1 child & live in Tucson, Arizona
posted 6th Oct
As an effing adult. She knew damn well what she was doing.
quote
I'm due July 17th, have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Peru
posted 6th Oct
Quoting La Reggaetonista:" As an effing adult. She knew damn well what she was doing."


yet shes too young to drink or smoke cause she will make bad decisions.. funny/
quote
I live in Illinois
posted 6th Oct
<blockquote><b>Quoting Audra's mommy:</b>" That is awful   Charge her as an adult. She knew it was wrong enough to hide the body. That baby deserves justice."</blockquote>




This. ): This whole story is horrific...
quote
I have 1 child & live in Michigan
posted 6th Oct
i say charge her as an adult if she didnt want the baby she could have gave it up for adoption to a family that would love and care for it not kill it... no matter how she felt about smurf with her parents.... she killed that baby then hid the body so there for it isnt insanity... its stupidity!!!
quotesmurfs?
I'm due October 19th (a girl), have 2 kids & live in Elko, Nevada
nextpost reply

who's online

There are 530 people online228 members & 302 guestssee all 228 members
 
alllatest topics
Mason & Carmen's Mommy postedBF and period question2 min ago
anxiouslywaiting4abfp postedwedding....5 min ago
☮[The Mrs.] postedStay at home moms13 min ago
Conservative MAMA postedPure frustration21 min ago
Kait. postedI've never been so pissed.27 min ago
Photo Assassin *23weeks* postedChanged proposed name while pregnant or later?41 min ago
Sarah Harwood postedwhats going on :/1 hour ago
Kelly&Coralie postedI hate being anxious1 hour ago
RegisterLoginSearchMembers MapWhos OnlineAdvanced Search
Pregnancy Weeks 1 - 40 Due Date Calculator Top 40 Books Cartoons Pregnancy Models Sarcastic Journalist Forums Resources & Links Pregnancy Issues Due Date Buddies Teen Pregnancy Baby Names TTC & Adoption Suffering & Loss Abortion Survivors Preparing for Baby Labor & Birth Tickers Pregnancy Tickers
Parenting Months 0 - 12 Baby Models Forums Resources & Links Post Partum Issues Parents with Preemies Parents with Infants Parents with Toddlers Parents with Kids Single Parenting Teen Parenting Special Needs Tickers Birthday Tickers
Forums Free for All Photo Spot Debate & Discuss Health & Well-Being Sex & Relationships All Things Food Contests Creation Station Weight Loss & Fitness Shopping & Classifieds Faqs & Feedback The Drama Corner

About | Site Map | Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise

All contents copyright © baby-gaga.com 2003-2011. All Rights Reserved.