re: Bible Accountability

Love that song <3

So I have a question for you ladies. How do you all feel about BC? I've been struggling with this a lot lately. I know in the Bible God killed Onan for emitting on the ground, and I'm guessing that is why many Christians consider it wrong to use BC. After DH and I read that, our DS was a year old and we didn't want another kid then. So we(I) decided if we were going to have sex, he couldn't pull out, so we decided to just not have sex unless we wanted another baby. Well, DH couldn't hold out much longer than a couple weeks so we had sex twice and then I got pregnant with DD2. After DD2 was born, he said he wanted to use the rhythm method and use ovulation tests to we wouldn't have sex during or close to me ovulating. I realllly didn't want to deal with all that, it seems like a huge pain in the butt to constantly be checking myself. Against DH's wishes, I got the Paragard IUD. I really like it, but now I feel like maybe it's not what God wants. We honestly are barely able to afford the kids we already have, and it will probably be another 2 years before we are able to get completely off of government assistance. I really really don't even want to think about any more kids until we don't need any assistance, all the other kids are in school, and we have bought a house. It just doesn't seem fair to risk having another child when we are barely getting by as it is with the 3 we already have. I know I'm supposed to trust God to provide. On one hand, I feel like if I'm supposed to have another baby, I will get pregnant with or without the IUD because it is possible, so if it's supposed to happen it will. On the other hand, I feel like I'm 'playing God' by trying to prevent another pregnancy, and I should just let Him decide. For DH, no sex is not an option, and the rhythm method is just another form of BC really. It's taking actions to prevent pregnancy.

What do you guys feel about this?

<blockquote><b>Quoting grace life:</b>" How are you all doing? "</blockquote>


I'm ok. But I am starting to think I may have or be borderline PTSD from this hospitalization and birth. So I'm gonna go to counseling and see if it can resolve and not sit around for 2 more weeks to see if it subsides.

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Blissful Six:</b>" Nice Dee. I think we all need this as a reminder from time to time. I've been struggling with some of ... [snip!] ... couldn't keep up with the demands of it and take care of a newborn. I hope that in the next year or so I can start up again."</blockquote>

That was my thing. I was doing too much at church. I was teaching Sunday school more than I had originally committed to, Doing a kids club on tuesday night, doing a women's group on Monday nights, church on Sunday, serving on a natural church development team, and any other special events the church was holding. I got so overwhelmed and my family was being neglected. So this year I dropped the "extra" to focus on family. I felt like I was somehow abandoning god but then this helped me realize it's not about all the extras. You can still be faithful to him without tryin to do everything.

<blockquote><b>Quoting grace life:</b>" I need to spend more time in this thread, it's a pretty dark place "out there" in the forum. "</blockquote>

I try to stay away from the drama. I just help people with topics I know about or have an opinion about or have researched and leave it at that. Or I go in threads to offer encouragement to people who are struggling or trying to lose weight and those types of things. I don't really do a lot of debating. I may lurk but I'm a pretty unbiased person so I just don't say anything.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lady GooGoo™:</b>" Just thought I'd share my little "apiphany"(sp?" I got this morning. God helped me realize that I need ... [snip!] ... Praise Jesus!   I'm so glad he came to me this morning to tell me this message. If I talk the talk, I need to walk the walk."</blockquote>

I find my best alone time with god is when I'm driving. I pray a lot and praise him for all I'm grateful for as I listen to Klove. Sometimes something on the radio may spark something or sometimes I just get my own ideas randomly. It feels good. I hate always praying about my burdens. I also like to pray for the things I am grateful for as well. Things I never asked for but he has blessed me with.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lady GooGoo™:</b>" So I have a question for you ladies. How do you all feel about BC? I've been struggling with this a lot ... [snip!] ... rhythm method is just another form of BC really. It's taking actions to prevent pregnancy. What do you guys feel about this?"</blockquote>

THIS is one of my huge moral dilemmas as well. I don't like bc. It messes up my body. It always has. Everything I've tried has had some adverse effect. I Hve talked to a few other ladies on bg about this because they say they trust in what God wants for them. I am not comfortable having a third child especially after this last birth experience. But I am completely torn between trusting god or using an alternative method. I've considered using spermicide. But I still feel that's bc. But like you I feel if it's meant to happen its going to happen regardless. But I don't like the anxiety that comes along with not using protection. The stress and anxiety at that time of the month, etc. I want to trust god but at the same time it's like sex is to get pregnant so it's my fault if I get pregnant if I'm having sex. So idk how I feel either. I have also considered rhythm method. But like you I am struggling with the idea of Gods will.  

Quoting Lady GooGoo™:" So I have a question for you ladies. How do you all feel about BC? I've been struggling with this a lot ... [snip!] ... rhythm method is just another form of BC really. It's taking actions to prevent pregnancy. What do you guys feel about this?"

God always provides or makes a way where there seems to be no way. I've seen it in my own life time and time again. However, I would exercise wisdom in this area. For me having another child right now would not be wise. For the same reasons you mentioned. And I'm pretty sure if God wanted a person to have another child, He could make it happen even if they were on BC ;)
We use condoms, but if I wasn't bf I'd be on BC. Although, lately I've felt like I'm not done having children..crazy as it sounds. I feel like he's told me not to close that door, but to wait.

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Blissful Six:</b>" God always provides or makes a way where there seems to be no way. I've seen it in my own life time ... [snip!] ... I've felt like I'm not done having children..crazy as it sounds. I feel like he's told me not to close that door, but to wait."</blockquote>


That's how I feel. We are content with our two but idk how well feel in the next 5 yrs. were still young. We'd be 30@35 in 5 more years. Thats still plenty young enough for more kids. I hate to commit to not wanting anymore when I still have a good 10-15 good childbearing years.

Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Blissful Six:</b>" God always provides or makes a way ... [snip!] ... young enough for more kids. I hate to commit to not wanting anymore when I still have a good 10-15 good childbearing years."

Exactly!

Quoting The Blissful Six:" God always provides or makes a way where there seems to be no way. I've seen it in my own life time ... [snip!] ... I've felt like I'm not done having children..crazy as it sounds. I feel like he's told me not to close that door, but to wait."

That's how I feel also! I am 100% positive that I don't want any within the next 4-5 years, but once my youngest is in school, IF we can afford, I would definantly love to have another one... or two, lol. I wish if that times comes and we could afford it I would hope I'd have twins lol. But I am very happy with the BC control I'm not, non hormonal and last for 12 years or less if I want to try sooner. And I have a box of PT's ready for in case I ever suspect a pregnancy so they can take the IUD out as early as possible so I can continue the pregnancy. I guess if that did happen, I would have my answer.

Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Blissful Six:</b>" God always provides or makes a way ... [snip!] ... young enough for more kids. I hate to commit to not wanting anymore when I still have a good 10-15 good childbearing years."

Yep! I think some people are crazy, sometimes I meet people who have one kid as a teen and then decide they're not having anymore. And some people, like my cousin, claims she will never have kids, which seems such a shame because she is my age, has been married to her husband over a year and they make SO much money(they put 1,000 into saving every month!) and she never plans to have a child to share her life with. Idk, to me that seems like such an empty life. She just says her dog is her child. I don't get it.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lady GooGoo™:</b>" Yep! I think some people are crazy, sometimes I meet people who have one kid as a teen and then decide ... [snip!] ... to share her life with. Idk, to me that seems like such an empty life. She just says her dog is her child. I don't get it."</blockquote>

I don't either. I would feel so empty without my kids   and if I wouldn't have been able to have kids we would have adopted for sure. We might still adopt when the kids are older. I mean well only be 43 and 48 when the kids are all gone if we just have these two. So we could definitely adopt older Children at that point in our lives if we wanted. Maybe even foster if we had enough money to do so at some point when the kids are older and can handle that kind of transition and decide whether or not to take In a child with us. But I don't like to limit myself now because things can change at different turning points in our lives.

I had a boss who was a career woman. She said shed never have kids. Now she has one and got her tubes tied when she had him. People can definitely change their mind.

Quoting Lady GooGoo™:" So I have a question for you ladies. How do you all feel about BC? I've been struggling with this a lot ... [snip!] ... rhythm method is just another form of BC really. It's taking actions to prevent pregnancy. What do you guys feel about this?"

Anybody correct me if I'm wrong but the reason Onan was in trouble for spilling his seed was because of the circumstance. He was supposed to get that woman pregnant so she could have someone take care of her... Kinsman redeemer. Does not apply to us. In my opinion. That's how I read it. It applied in that certain time for that certain purpose. To that certain man.

Quoting queso +2curdles(21):" Anybody correct me if I'm wrong but the reason Onan was in trouble for spilling his seed was because ... [snip!] ... to us. In my opinion. That's how I read it. It applied in that certain time for that certain purpose. To that certain man. "

Her husband had died and Onan was his brother, so he was supposed to help her bear children. But he emitted on the ground because he knew they would not be his but his late brothers, or something to that affect. From the context it says along the lines of "so when he went into her, and emitted on the ground, and God saw this and it angered him so he killed him" I know those aren't the exact words but I'm pretty sure that's how it went. IMO it sounds like it was the fact he emitted on the ground that angered him. I mean, you could be right about the special circumstances surrounding it, but idk. It's hard to tell which part angered him. But that's how I interpreted it.