Quoting TheNuge:" It's a cut to providers. How can you or Obama defend that. and, lets look at why they made those cuts ... [snip!] ... paid less. So please, tell me how that will work? There is over $700B missing from the bill to pay for necessary services. "

The providers agreed to this and it was government subsidies that were cut, the same amount would be cut from Ryan's plan but that would going to tax cuts for the wealthy. The congressional budget office of record confirms this, it didn't take anything away from seniors.

Quoting TheNuge:" i was in a rush and just reread your post. What are you talking about regarding defunding M & ... [snip!] ... projected for medicare and think that Obama's plan is good. It's going bankrupt and Obama just helped get it there faster,"

The Obama plan made Medicare solvent for the next 20 years by cutting cost to service providers, which was agreed to because they would be getting a lot more patients into the system.

Quoting TheNuge:" lol. the Ds have NOT helped in my business. The evidence i was referring to is in the economy, not M & M. And, there is no evidence that the Rs are taking it down."

The Democrats tax savings has helped your business. The Republican Ryan plan wants to use vouchers to pay for medicare and if that doesn't cover the cost you will be paying out of pocket. The Ryan plan will take big cuts out of medicaid. I recommend looking it up.

Quoting emerald01:" The Obama plan made Medicare solvent for the next 20 years by cutting cost to service providers, which was agreed to because they would be getting a lot more patients into the system. "

You are losing credibility again.
What providers agreed to take less for their valuable services?
What provider, currently overburdened, would agree to a lower fee sructure with an added bonus of seeing more people when their waiting rooms are already filled and people complain about not being able to see the doc for more than a few minutes?
I really dont think you understand how businesses work.

Quoting emerald01:" The Democrats tax savings has helped your business. The Republican Ryan plan wants to use vouchers to ... [snip!] ... cover the cost you will be paying out of pocket. The Ryan plan will take big cuts out of medicaid. I recommend looking it up. "

What Deemocrat tax plan has helped my business? Please be specific.

Regarding Medicare and the Romney/Ryan ticket, i dont know why we are focused on that as Romney is not implementing Ryan's plan. Ryan just happens to be an expert in budgetary matters and Medicare and Medicaid. The vouchers are an OPTION and they dont impact people until well after they have had time to plan for the changes to Medicare. People will continue to pay into Meidicare and continue to get more than they pay in when needed.
The Ryan plan for Medicaid takes more out of it BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL GET BETTER INSURANCE THAN MEDICAID. Obama pushes more people to bottom-of-the-barrel (in many areas) government-sponsored health insurance.
Gee, what would i rather see people have? Hmmm... Medicaid or a good job with private insurance.

Quoting TheNuge:" You are losing credibility again. What providers agreed to take less for their valuable services? ... [snip!] ... about not being able to see the doc for more than a few minutes? I really dont think you understand how businesses work."

It sounds like you have no idea how business works and thanks to the Democrats they helped your business and did not take away services you depend on for your employees and your family. You don't realize what happen under the Bush presidency. He couldn't even sell his privatized social security idea, which happen right before the economy collapsed and he didn't even pay for the wars and the tax cuts he gave out.

Quoting emerald01:" It sounds like you have no idea how business works and thanks to the Democrats they helped your business ... [snip!] ... idea, which happen right before the economy collapsed and he didn't even pay for the wars and the tax cuts he gave out. "

Well, i suppose i dont know how business works even though i have run a couple of large multi-million dollar businesses in my previous corporate jobs and my husband and i currently run successful small businesses.
You must know soooo much more. So much that you cant be specific about how the Ds have helped my businesses.
Please try to understand more than talking points and commercial message from the Ds and the Obama campaign.

I wouldn't vote for him no matter what and this just made me smile knowing he is outing himself as an uber douche again.

Quoting emerald01:" The Obama plan made Medicare solvent for the next 20 years by cutting cost to service providers, which was agreed to because they would be getting a lot more patients into the system. "

"Physicians cannot afford to treat Medicare patients under the new rates," said Dr. James C. Martin, president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. "


" So while the SGR failed to meet its spending-reduction goals, it did have the effect of limiting Medicare recipients' access to doctors. Congress doesn't have the political power to bend the phyisicians' groups and other lobbies to its will and force them to accept lower fees. Yet it can, and already has, rigged the system to make it hard for physicians to see Medicare patients. "

http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2012/08/20/physicians_are_already_fleeing_medicare_263.html