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Ban ANY member who attempts to out A BG secrets poster?

Yes, BG secret posters should be protected
 
85% (349 votes)
NO, You use the account, you take the risk of being exposed
 
14% (59 votes)
...does not compute
 
1% (5 votes)

re: Ban ANY member who attempts to out A BG secrets poster?

posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Giraffe Mommy[♥]:" I felt confident that my secrets were safe on The Secrets account. I am not quite sure what you mean. ... [snip!] ... The fact that this even has to be asked makes me not feel so safe in there anymore. Of course they need to be banned."

if a member THINKS they know someone's secret (even if they don't) and attempts to publicly connect you to your secret post... this is what we're trying to prevent.

the secret keepers know they'd be banned, this is to deal w/ ANY member who'd attempt to expose a BG secrets poster maliciously.
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I'm due September 28th, have 1 child & live in San Francisco, California
posted 16th Aug '12
I think if someone is using the info from the bg secrets account to maliciously hurt someone then yes they should be banned.
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I'm due January 3rd, have 1 child & live in New Jersey
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting ...CeCe...:" I think if someone is using the info from the bg secrets account to maliciously hurt someone then yes they should be banned."


I agree.

They post on that account to be annonymous...not to be known for who they ACTUALLY are on here. If someone knows who they are and want to talk to them about their present situation they posted about, take it to PM's.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Missouri
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" I voted not to ban, simply because it's too hard to put in place. You can't really determine that they've ... [snip!] ... a bg secrets post about it, if someone were to bring it up, who's to say I (or someone else in the ptot) didn't tell them?"

This is all a very good and well thought out point.
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I have 4 kids & live in New York
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Barney Stinson [Epic]:" some guy with glasses frowning at you."




no it was  

But i was on my ipad
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I have 2 kids & live in Lakeland, Florida
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting ...CeCe...:" I think if someone is using the info from the bg secrets account to maliciously hurt someone then yes they should be banned."

Completely agree!
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I live in Texas
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" I voted not to ban, simply because it's too hard to put in place. You can't really determine that they've ... [snip!] ... a bg secrets post about it, if someone were to bring it up, who's to say I (or someone else in the ptot) didn't tell them?"

when the member is clearly connected to their post in that situation or elsewhere publicly it's irrelevant HOW you came by the information, rather that you're pinning their post to them.

if you make a statement that could be a clue to who it is, that's not the same. for example: "but what about how your daughter feels about all of this?" ... it's clear you know more than others (or at least think you do), but it doesn't remotely identify the poster. anonymity is preserved.

if you - on the other hand, were to say, "but you're gay, we all know it. you even posted it in BG secrets, which we thought was ridiculous considering how un-secret this fact it", you should be banned.

if you go into their BG secrets topic and attempt to identify them in a way that is clearly malicious -- and even if you're wrong, you would be banned for being an smurf of the first degree.

certain behaviors aren't tolerable, this is one of 'em.
quotesmurfs?
I'm due September 28th, have 1 child & live in San Francisco, California
posted 16th Aug '12
<blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" when the member is clearly connected to their post in that situation or elsewhere publicly it's irrelevant ... [snip!] ... wrong, you would be banned for being an smurf of the first degree. certain behaviors aren't tolerable, this is one of 'em. "</blockquote>


Okay, what if you said something about them being gay without saying "you even said on the bg secrets account".

It's easy to attack a secret without saying where you heard it.
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 16th Aug '12
What was the point of the secrets account if it isn't meant to be completely protected? Gossiping about it and trying to match who asked for the account info with what threads posted is also disturbing. I know why it was wanted to be controlled so badly now, so people can have info on others to "use" when the time is right. It's bullsmurf, plain and simple. Not to mention, someone may ask for it who chickens out before they actually use it or they may wait a few days. So not only are you attempting to "out" someone, you are outing the wrong person. And outing in a roundabout way is still outing them, IMO.
quotesmurfs?
I'm due October 28th, have 3 kids & live in Texas
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting [wtf] i'm heather.:" So like if I was reading something I knew someone's kids were G, J & H. They posted a secret about cheating ... [snip!] ... on her husband and everything else. I'm not sure that's grounds for a ban on my part. Why were they a little more cautious."

You shouldn't be pondering who they could be anyway. It should be respected that they posted on the secrets account.
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I'm due October 28th, have 3 kids & live in Texas
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Moses.:" What was the point of the secrets account if it isn't meant to be completely protected? Gossiping about ... [snip!] ... are you attempting to "out" someone, you are outing the wrong person. And outing in a roundabout way is still outing them, IMO."

I agree with all of this actually.
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I live in Georgia
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" when the member is clearly connected to their post ... [snip!] ... gay without saying "you even said on the bg secrets account". It's easy to attack a secret without saying where you heard it."

if it doesn't connect them to their posting, it's not even part of the issue, then.

if you say something that undeniably connects them to their secrets post, you're being a huge dick -- regardless of how you came by that information.

telling someone they're gay w/out connecting it to the account has nothing to do w/ the account, unless when you're identifying it you make it clear that they're the person who posted about being gay on the BG secrets account.
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I'm due September 28th, have 1 child & live in San Francisco, California
posted 16th Aug '12
Quoting Moses.:" What was the point of the secrets account if it isn't meant to be completely protected? Gossiping about ... [snip!] ... are you attempting to "out" someone, you are outing the wrong person. And outing in a roundabout way is still outing them, IMO."

what does that mean exactly?

i agree w/ your first statement. i voted to ban -- so this is just a poll to make sure we're all on the same page.
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I'm due September 28th, have 1 child & live in San Francisco, California
posted 16th Aug '12
<blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" if it doesn't connect them to their posting, it's not even part of the issue, then. if you say something ... [snip!] ... when you're identifying it you make it clear that they're the person who posted about being gay on the BG secrets account. "</blockquote>



Okay, in that case for sure, I just don't like "grey" rules that are hard to prove. Like the name posting, it caused a lot of headaches trying to determine when it's a clear cut violation and if it's just smurf-ish enough to ban. KWIM?


How about a mod who has the password saying in a pm, a ptot, or in public that so and so asked for the password?
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
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