Quoting Amberchik78:" 14 yr old also know everything ever in the universe and get easily butthurt. They still need structure."
Quoting Blythe.:" At 14 you are old enough to go to bed when you are tired. If you stay up too late. You'll learn that lesson the next day"
Quoting Snickles:" but the issue i'm having is, he doesn't learn the lesson, he stays up until god knows when and then ... [snip!] ... my 5yo's sleep and before I always just dealt with it but now 5yo is starting kindergarten next week and he has to go to bed. "
Quoting Amberchik78:" I think giving him structure will help him. When does he start school? Mine start the 22nd or the 29th. "
Quoting Snickles:" The 22nd is when they start. I try to leave things with SS up to DH when he's here, because when he ... [snip!] ... He did it last year. It can't be good for him. But my main issue is my 5yo's sleep when SS is here and staying up all night."
Quoting Amberchik78:" right, and that makes sense. I don't understand the mother's motivation, though. Is she trying to be ... [snip!] ... it. I hope it resolves for you soon... maybe if you talk to him one on one about the 5 yr old going to bed he will get it?"
Quoting Snickles:" What time is bedtime for your 14yo during summer break? What time is bedtime during school?"