re: Breast Implants

Quoting God:“ I don't think that's the largest factor in the choice... but I think anyone who says it's not a factor ... [snip!] ... that she needs implants to feel better about herself, yet she does not care AT ALL about how she looks to other people. C.”

I agree. I liked showing off my cleavage when my milk dropped. I'm not gonna lie. But I never showed it off when my husband wasnt there.

Quoting ... Does Not Make You a C:“ I'm being as honest as I can be; part of me is doing it because of the way other people see me, but it ... [snip!] ... Its my own insecurity, I guess. I dont like what I see when I look in the mirror, regardless of whether or not my husband does.

i know what you're talking about in regards to insecurity. i used to have a very real hang up about my small boobs -- no thanks to my first bf telling me that my breast size was "smaller" than his ideal breast size. (like he gets to pick and choose typically and they just didn't have what he wanted in the shop... what an a-hole).

i would never go under the knife for vanity's sake, but back in college i was so insecure i would spend hours browsing those sites that claim to have pills you can take to enlarge your breasts. back then, i didn't have the $300 to waste on something that probably doesn't work anyway, but i dreamt of it, b/c i was so unhappy w/ what i had.

i didn't think you were doing it to be sexy to other men. i fully understand that this is a personal body issue-- but the fact remains it's a body issue that you have taken on-- no thanks to what modern society claims is important about being attractive as a woman. this is not an issue that is natural to who you are whatsoever.

ultimately, you and only you can decide if you're willing to do the work to get over the insecurity or simply cave to the societal beast.

i was able to let go of my insecurity about my breasts and proudly join the aforementioned itty bitty titty committee w/ pride b/c i found a man who loved me the way i was. so in a way, i wasn't fully able to let go on my own... i wish could claim that i did, but even still... as i grew older, my insecurity seemed more and more ridiculous.

at this point-- 29 years old and happy/satisfied w/ my body, my ownership of my body is fully mine. and even if i were to be single at this point, i would not be able to convince myself again that bigger breasted women were in any way more attractive than me.

don't get me wrong. i know what a good looking set of full tits is and can appreciate the beauty of a nice full c cup, just like i can appreciate a nice shiny head of long black hair (as opposed to my beautiful but short and crazy red hair).

variety is the spice of life and anyone that tries to tell me that there is only one sort of boob out there that is attractive is immature and boringly simple minded and probably not the sort of person i'd enjoy spending much time with.

so when i'm on the beach w/ my SIL (for example) who fills out her bras and bikinis w/ aplomb, we can comfortably joke about my tiny ones and her naturally large-but-still-gorgeous tits (they're playboy material), but i recognize in the same instant, that she still has to double up on sports bras, always wear bras in general (i still don't except when running), and yes, the sag-factor will be evil when she gets older.

i love her big boobs b/c they're part of who she is. i love my little boobs b/c they're part of who i am. and neither is better than the other.

and emmagrace, honestly, i don't notice them that much-- i usually let max drink a huge amount before my run and then plaster them into my same-size sports bra's (which are admittedly tighter, but still do the job).

Quoting ... Does Not Make You a C:“ Yeah, that's the same with me. My husband likes my boobs just the way they are, but he doesnt care if ... [snip!] ... but he doesnt care if I make them bigger. But, in my own head, I think he would like them bigger, he just doesnt know it yet.”

I know he doesnt want them any different. He has said that himself when I told him I thought about it but he does understand why I want it. Its not really that I want them "bigger" exactly its more that I want them "fuller" so bras and bathing suits fit the right way. So that when I look in a mirror I am happy with what I see because its what I want. Its like my tounge piercing. I didnt do it for any sexual reasons (I rarely if ever do that) and hardly anybody has actually seen it. Its for me. I like it there even if no one sees it. I want to be comfortable in my body and in my clothes that I dont feel like I am falling out of them or something.

Quoting Cowgirl47429:“ I know he doesnt want them any different. He has said that himself when I told him I thought about it ... [snip!] ... one sees it. I want to be comfortable in my body and in my clothes that I dont feel like I am falling out of them or something.”

I know exactly what you mean about the tongue piercing. I got mine done because at the time, they were still somewhat original, not because I enjoyed giving head. Still dont enjoy that one. But I took mine out almost four years ago and that thing still has not grown together. I got all my piercings and tattoos because I liked them and not for anyone else. Yeah, I guess my boobs will be more for me too.

haha thats the worst logic i've ever heard! what about lesbians who get them? what about asexuals? i have breast implants and i did not get them for men to stare at. i got them because i hated my body without boobs, i was totally out of proportion. curves everywhere but there. do i like the attention i get from men with them? sure. but i'm an attention whore! haha many women have breast implants though, and they keep their boobs covered. no cleavage or anything. i think they would dress sexier if thats why they got them.

Quoting ... Does Not Make You a C:“ Yeah, that's the same with me. My husband likes my boobs just the way they are, but he doesnt care if ... [snip!] ... but he doesnt care if I make them bigger. But, in my own head, I think he would like them bigger, he just doesnt know it yet.”

haha my ex was the same way. told me he was an ass man and actually loved my small perky breasts. i got a boob job and OMG he could not keep his hands off them! he bragged to all his friends about them and said he felt like he was dating a supermodel or porn star. i think he knew he would love them but didn't want to make me see that because how shitty would that be? that would leave me insecure up intil the surgery if i even went through with it.

Quoting ☆twat waffle☆:“ haha thats the worst logic i've ever heard! what about lesbians who get them? what about asexuals? i ... [snip!] ... though, and they keep their boobs covered. no cleavage or anything. i think they would dress sexier if thats why they got them.”

i'm too lazy to go through and re-read the thread, but i didn't think anyone said getting boob jobs was about being an attention whore... did they?

i feel like most of the people on here have been surprisingly supportive of her desire to get her boob job.

i say "surprisingly", b/c i'm old-fashioned and idealistic about the body's we're born with being the one we should learn to love...

so i'm surprised at how easily cosmetic surgery has become acceptable w/in the past few years.

honestly, i shouldn't be surprised: i think a great deal of this is a direct result of the media's popularization/romantization of cosmetic surgery via quasi-reality shows.

what i see when i watch those shows: lost and insecure people (mostly women) taking violent measures (cutting your body open is violent even if it's under anesthetic in a sterile medical environment) in search of happiness w/ themselves-- believing that by cutting and altering their current bodies that they will somehow become a better version of their self... b/c they feel ugly and think that by changing their outward appearance they will free themself from their self-hatred.

to a degree this can happen, but on another level, your true self will always be much more than your breasts, so if it's a problem in isolation (e.g. you're so certain that small breasts is your only flaw and invasive surgery will heal this/solve the problem of your low self-esteem), then it can-- at least on the surface, provide a bolster to a woman's sense of worth.

on the other hand, it's a bit unfortunate that so many women''s sense of self worth can be/and is so intensely tied to the appearance of arbitrarily sized sacks of fat on our chests.

quite logically, many of us have deemed our bodies as "unattractive" b/c we cannot avoid focusing on them as society does and in that, has taught us that our tits are a huge part of our sexual worth (which is undeniably an important part of our sense of self-worth).

so consciously or unconsciously, we over-identify our sense of personal worht/sexiness w/ an externally derived (and rather pointless) standard that is tit-size... while the truth is many of our small breasts are perfect and beautiful already (hey, i'm an artist and i know small tits can be just as beautiful as big ones).

that is, unless you believe that you should have big tits b/c that's what you've learned will make you attractive (to whomever, yourself, others, who cares) ... instead of loving our pre-existing healthy beautiful bodies. (nikki, you were gorgeous already).

still, i try to respect people's rights to cope w/ their body issues as they see fit, but i can't help but feel that there is an underlying current of self-hatred that makes women willing to do such violence to themselves for the mere sake of their appearance-- especially on such a non-functional part of their body. (i mean, it's not like having small tits has prevented me from doing anything besides winning wet t-shirt contests... which, yeah, i really don't see as a tragedy).

Quoting Mara:“ i'm too lazy to go through and re-read the thread, but i didn't think anyone said getting boob jobs ... [snip!] ... has prevented me from doing anything besides winning wet t-shirt contests... which, yeah, i really don't see as a tragedy).”

There are parts I disagree with here. I think I look awesome (well when not pregnant because I just get sick way too much) I think even with small breasts I am a attractive person. I dont think anyone should have to "learn to love" something. I feel love is not learned its developed and set in stone sort of as far as dislikes VS likes. For example I will never learn to love seaweed shakes someone might drink for breakfast. I dont feel that my appearence in the eyes of anyone else would change if I got implants because like I said I feel liek I am attractivebut in my eyes and in my bodyit would. I dont like the way shirts feel or how it feels to lay on my stomach at night. I literally dont liek the feel of having what I see and feel as flat breasts (as in slightly deflated) I dont think I should have to learn to love that feeling. I would always feel as if I was in the wrong body.

i am thinking about getting a breast reduction. i am a dd and i wanna go to a full c. its so hard to find pretty nice bras around where i live. but if i had small boobs (like a a or a b.) i would get breast implants

Quoting Cowgirl47429:“ There are parts I disagree with here. I think I look awesome (well when not pregnant because I just ... [snip!] ... slightly deflated) I dont think I should have to learn to love that feeling. I would always feel as if I was in the wrong body.”

like i said, everyone has to resolve their body issues one way or another...

but do you think you'd hate your breasts if you grew up in a society that deemed small breasts as the sexiest type of breast?

my point remains: it is-- on quite a few levels sad that women are willing to violently alter their bodies b/c they feel such an intense dissociation/hatred for that part of their own body as it is ... and merely b/c of what they've learned/internalized the notion that their breasts (which are perfectly fine functionally small or big) are an important part of their self-worth.

b/c your particular breast size does not conform to this ideal you've internalized from the media (how they should look in certain clothing or when you're laying down), you accept violent action against yourself as the optimal solution to your insecurity/hatred of your breasts -- instead of critically analyzing why you are unable to accept the beauty of your body as it is.

as far as learning to love yourself goes... you're right and wrong. love is certainly developed, but it's never set in stone-- esepcially when it comes to something as fluid as body image (fluid in the sense that it's changing from day to day -- as you age, become more or less healthy, buy different clothes, view different body types, learn about new cultural trends etc). there are always things that can change a person's mind about anything.

ultimately, what strikes me about the willingness to go under the knife to alter breast size is what it says about your love of yourself. if you love someone else, you'd never ask them to change their appearance by undergoing plastic surgery for you, and yet, so many women don't love their own bodies enough not to violently change them.

after all this talk, i've decided it is sad that women accept and believe their bodies a) are so unacceptable in the first place that they're b) willing to cut themselves open for it.

Quoting Mara:“ like i said, everyone has to resolve their body issues one way or another... but do you think you'd ... [snip!] ... and believe their bodies a) are so unacceptable in the first place that they're b) willing to cut themselves open for it.”

I dont think its because of society. I may like how it looks in the clothes I wear but its also how it "feels" to me. I wear hoodies a lot so its rare that anyone would really be able to see them and my husband wants them to stay the same. I always thought it was alright I just had issues with not being comfortable in my body do to self esteem which I didnt know how to change so I was basically trying to just learn to live with it. When they were bigger after I had my kids I was so much more comfortable. I was comfortable laying on my stomach at night and putting on a shirt that didnt feel like it was a wetsuit because it didnt touch every part of my chest if that makes sense. I mean like the shirt stays off the clevage area in between and I hated the feeling when it did/does cling there. I dont want the breasts I see in media or liek the girls you see doing wet t-shirt contest so I dont feel that media is a reason why I want anything. I do think my body is beautiful and attractive but its just not comfortable.

No its not permenant because loves can change but I dont see how love can be learned is all I meant. I love most of my body but why not change if I can the parts that I dont because after all it is the body I have to live it? No I wouldnt ask my husband to change anything as he doesnt want me to do it either but he also understands that personal comfort in your own body is important.

Quoting Mara:“ i'm too lazy to go through and re-read the thread, but i didn't think anyone said getting boob jobs ... [snip!] ... has prevented me from doing anything besides winning wet t-shirt contests... which, yeah, i really don't see as a tragedy).”

no, no one said that.  i was just putting that out there, because i do love attention (i guess its the leo in me)  and you have to be right by your logic to a degree.  it only makes sense.  i mean, if small boobs were thought of as ideal i'm sure no one would be getting breast implants and instead would be getting reductions only.  i think some of what you said is a little extreme though.  i don't think i had a hatred for myself that made me seek out bigger boobs.  i found a surprising amount of confidence from them, so i think that wouldn't be there if it was self hatred.  

i think it goes just beyond people liking big boobs.  because there are a huge number of people who prefer small boobs.  i think a lot of it has to do with proportion.  in our society beauty seems to be measured by things being in proper proportion and symmetrical.  super models are picked because they have symmetrical features and everything is in the "right" proportions.  i know i would have actually loved my breasts small had i been one of those stick figure girls without curves, because they were cute!  nice shape and perky.  but with all my curves elsewhere and pudge and fat i felt out of whack.  and there was nothing more disappointing than going bikini shopping and having it all re-confirmed for me because i needed a large on bottom and a small on top.  if there was an option to have my bones and muscles shaved down to make my hips smaller and waist smaller and remove all the extra fat i may have gone with that over big boobs!  i've always envied those girls who can fit in a size 2.  i never fit in a size 2, not even when i was 120 pounds (while 5' 9 1/2") and doctors were concerned for me thinking i had an eating disorder.  

and i think if your breast shrunk when hitting puberty women would seek out small breasts.  while society and media make everything a lot more obvious...i think the underlying issues with small breasts stems from puberty.  you are a girl and go through puberty to become a woman.  you start having periods, growing body hair and grow breasts.  if you feel like you didn't ever grow those breasts its almost like feeling you didn't become as womanly as other women.  some people get over that, like you mara.  but some people will forever feel like little boys gone wrong with the lack of breasts.  

Quoting ... Does Not Make You a C:“ See thats me. I'm a C right now, but I know when I lose all the baby weight I am going to be a small ... [snip!] ... of my butt to my boobs. That would be nice. I'm glad to know that there are women out there who dont think that its trashy.”

Not at all...I have a friend who showed me what hers looked like before and they were small and kind of deformed looking. There are lots of reasons women get them done. If it's going to make you feel better about you, go for it! As long as you don't go from, say a B, to, say a DD, you shouldn't get weird looks from anyone! I would just make sure you research your plastic surgeon...some of them are great and some not so great. You don't want to spend that amount of money just to have to turn around and get them redone.

Shit i would get a new set of boobs and a tummy tuck if I could afford it. I wanna look good in a 2 peice baby  OH yeah and do they have a procedure to rid my poor belly of the strech marks?? they are so ugly!!!