What would you do... Sister and nice...

Picture yourself in this scenario...

You have a nice that really is well.... a hell-spawn. You love her, but she does NOT listen, does NOT give a damn about anyone else, and is straight up MEAN. But you love her and try to spend time with her and your daughter spends time with her.

Only your niece makes fun of your child. A lot. You niece steals things from your house... a lot. Your niece lies so she won't get in trouble... a lot. She apparently lies in school to her friends and teachers and gets in trouble a lot because of how she acts.

Your niece gets a cellphone and texts you late/early. Like past midnight or at 6am. Despite telling her to please not to. You've told her numerous times not to text you at those hours and you gladly text her at other times but she doesn't listen. She has resorted to hanging up on you, or even prank calling you at times and ADMITTED to it in texts. You speak to your sister about this and your niece deletes her call/texts and denies ever doing it. Your sister believes your niece, not you. She says "There are no texts, she's asleep at that time."

Your niece cuts up her shorts to make them shorter and when your sister takes them away, she just goes and gets them again to wear. She calls herself "sexy." She tries to get boys attention.

The list goes on.

Your niece will turn 11 in 2 days.

So, BG... what do you do? Because your sister is in denial, talking to your niece makes her talk back in a completely smurffy attitude... so what do you do?

<---- is sick of her niece being a brat to her and her sister defending her.

I'm blunt so I'd tell my sister straight up "Your daughter is gonna end up pregnant at 12 if you don't do something about her behavior." but that is just me...I'm bitchy...

What can you do, really? She won't listen to anyone it seems. I guess I'd call the phone company and have her number blocked, so you won't be getting calls at that time, and not allow her around your child if she's going to be mistreat your LO

Quoting FroggysMommy:" Picture yourself in this scenario... You have a nice that really is well.... a hell-spawn. You love ... [snip!] ... smurffy attitude... so what do you do? <---- is sick of her niece being a brat to her and her sister defending her."

I would let your sister parent the child and limit my involvement if I was uncomfortable.

Quoting FroggysMommy:" Picture yourself in this scenario... You have a nice that really is well.... a hell-spawn. You love ... [snip!] ... smurffy attitude... so what do you do? <---- is sick of her niece being a brat to her and her sister defending her."

Stop associating with her. You've tried your best and your sister is clearly out of her mind.

Block her number, and don't let her around your house or kids.

I would not do anything. She not my kid. I would also not leave her alone with my kid.

I would have shown your sister the texts on your phone. Also I would be really forward about your feelings and tell your sister if she doesn't do something now she is going to be a grandmother very shortly.

Beat her?

I dont know. I couldn't be around her niece or not. I can not stand a liar or a thief, and if your sister is just turning her cheek, there isn't a whole lot you can do.

Cut yourself away from your sister and niece. Tell your sister that she is not allowed over at your house until her behavior changes. You shouldn't have to deal with it. Block her number and get on with your life. I would cut off all communication though.

Personally? Id be looking for any sign that someone is hurting the neice. Those behaviors in a 10 year old are usually indicative of some sort of abuse or neglect.... JMO

Quoting FroggysMommy:" Picture yourself in this scenario... You have a nice that really is well.... a hell-spawn. You love ... [snip!] ... smurffy attitude... so what do you do? <---- is sick of her niece being a brat to her and her sister defending her."

You say "Kid can't visit me till she straightens up"

Period.
You have your own kid..and don't need that little smurf being a role model for your kid in ANY way.



And then change your number.

Quoting Mamas Boy Liam:" Personally? Id be looking for any sign that someone is hurting the neice. Those behaviors in a 10 year old are usually indicative of some sort of abuse or neglect.... JMO"

Wtf?
Where the hell do you get that?



I don't see it at ALL.

Quoting Mamas Boy Liam:" Personally? Id be looking for any sign that someone is hurting the neice. Those behaviors in a 10 year old are usually indicative of some sort of abuse or neglect.... JMO"

    what? kid is an ass? automatically being abused? are you serious right now..

Quoting Mamas Boy Liam:" Personally? Id be looking for any sign that someone is hurting the neice. Those behaviors in a 10 year old are usually indicative of some sort of abuse or neglect.... JMO"

My niece is not abused nor is she neglected. If ANY of us thought she was we would go on one hell of a mission to find out who is hurting her. I mean, my sister was pulled into a car at the side of a road, raped, and had a baby from it that she gave up for adoption. She knows more than anyone the trauma of sexual assault/abuse.

But I can't just not be around her. I mean I try to be around her as little as possible. I love her but ugh... the girl drives me INSANE with how she acts! So I dont want to see her but I can't totally not see her. At least I don't feel I can. My daughter never wants to go to my sisters house. She wanted to about a month ago and I was happy she wanted to spend time with that side of the family. Well my niece made her sleep on the floor without blankets(besides my daughters blanket that she's had since she was 1). She wouldn't let her sleep on the bed and my sister denies this. I do plan on showing her the texts tomorrow and call log so she can see that I'm not insane, she IS calling me. My Mom talked to her last time.

It started because my niece got a cell phone different than what my nephew has (we pay for his phone). I kept having someone call and hang up on me, so I'm all "Whatever" with it. But then I find out it was her, and I showed my Mom once Kaitlyn told my sister "I was asleep then!" and my Mom backed me up... she was calling me! I just didnt know it was her phone because I didnt know the number.

She called and hung up on me the other day because she said she was ticked off at my Mom, but called her by her first name. I said "First, you don't call her that. Shes Grandma. Two, you don't hang up on people just because you are mad." She pitched a smurfing fit and didn't want to see my Mom because she would rather sit at home and do nothing or hang out with her friends. She asked me "Will she buy me something?" I said "No, she doesn't need to buy you something to see you." She said "Well then I don't want to see her, she ticks me off." THEN she said she didn't want to spend time with my Mom because her head hurt. Then her foot hurt. Then her back hurt. She said "I can't do anything, my body hurts, I can't walk around a mall." Now keep in my mind my Moms smurfing disabled and has a bratty granddaughter she's trying to see and she won't go. But I said "Well okay then, if your body hurts that bad I guess we should cancel your birthday party because swimming will hurt it even more." She said "I don't care if it hurts me swimming, its different to see my friends than seeing grandma." I tell her that she makes my Mom cry because of how she acts and she says "ya ya dont care."

I swear, if she was my child she would be backhanded so smurfing hard.... but wait, my child doesn't act this way! My sister says my daughter doesn't act right at their house and teases my niece... Im sorry but I dont believe that for a second because my daughter knows the unholy monster in me will come out if she teases someone... I do NOT tolerate bullying. At all. Lily is the type to hang out with the "rejects" in school because she knows it's right and isn't friends with those that are mean to others because of who/what they are.


As for changing my number... I can't. I can't ever change my number until I get the custody smurf taken care of, which may be years away. If ever. So that's not an option.

But as everyone said, it's a major fear of my Mom and mine that Kaitlyn will become pregnant by the time she's out of middle school. She wants to act like she's way older, CRAVES boys attention, and puts down those that do act their age. I mean she texted me the other day to say she needs new shorts because she cut up hers to be really short and now my sister won't let her wear them. I said "Well you can't be rewarded with shorts for doing something you knew was wrong. You can wear my old shorts though." She said "But pants are hot and I only have pants so Mommy is mean." I said "Mommy isn't mean, she's trying to teach you that you can't do that to your clothes. You can have my old shorts." She put Lily down for wearing a Littlest Pet Shop shirt and said "Thats for babies!" I said "Kaitlyn, she can like what she wants. Not too long ago you liked them too. I'm 28 and love Pikachu still, and that's just okay." So I went and put on my pikachu shirt to make a point. If it doesn't make her seem older or "cool," she won't do/wear it.

She talks back all the time too. I am really protective of Lily because of her father and when Kaitlyn, her friends, and an older girl I trust were with Lily on a playground I said "Please watch Lily, she doesnt know this area and you can't run off on her. If you don't want to hang around take her back to me, but don't leave her alone here." Kaitlyn rolls her eyes and says "Yeah whatever we will do what we want." Her older friend tells her to stop and be respectful (I really like this girl). I stopped and said "Kaitlyn, that's the last time you will disrespect me today. I can guarantee you will not like what happens the next time you mouth off in front of your friends. So I advise you to be a good girl like you can be and talk right to your elders. You stay here, and you do not leave Lily, you understand?" Her friend is telling her to please be good so she doesn't get in trouble.

I love my niece, I really do, but I get SO FRUSTRATED with this constant bickering and with her thinking she can rule the world and make fun of Lily. I mean she even made fun of Lily and her encopresis. I SNAPPED at that... seriously, that made me absolutely lose it and I said something I shouldn't of to her, but I was so sick of her hurting my child.

Quoting FroggysMommy:" My niece is not abused nor is she neglected. If ANY of us thought she was we would go on one hell of ... [snip!] ... that made me absolutely lose it and I said something I shouldn't of to her, but I was so sick of her hurting my child."

You can have her number blocked though