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re: Male vs. Female Perpetrators in Sex Crimes

posted 12th May
Quoting Tracy Ann:“ Perfect example of why mandatory sentences are unjust.”


I forget the kids name, but this did happen a few years ago. I think the kid was either 17-18 and had consentual oral (or sex) with a 15-16 year old girl. The guy got tried and is still serving time and is considered a sexual offender. I think his case went to appeal, but lost because of the state's laws. I wish I could remember this guys name. It's a pretty sad story.
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I have 3 kids & live in Maryland
posted 12th May
Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I forget the kids name, but this did happen a few years ago. I think the kid was either 17-18 and had ... [snip!] ... his case went to appeal, but lost because of the state's laws. I wish I could remember this guys name. It's a pretty sad story.”

That is sad.
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I have 3 kids & live in Michigan
posted 12th May
It bothers me the fact that a girl can call rape (falsely accusing) and ruins the life of a man because of childish selfish reasons. I understand looking into the issue to see if its true but there are many girls/women that call rape when there was no rape at all  
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I have 1 child & live in North Carolina
posted 12th May
I have real problems with statutory rape laws, especially with them being classed as sex offenders. The law exists to protect and punish those who prey upon younger individuals, not people who have consensual sex with someone a couple of years younger. But, because of the way it's written, no such distinction is made.

C.
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I'm due March 18th, have 1 child & live in St. Catharines, Ontario
posted 12th May
I think it further prooves how screwy the justice system is.
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I have 3 kids & live in Oklahoma
posted 12th May
Quoting The3Musketeers♥:“ It bothers me the fact that a girl can call rape (falsely accusing) and ruins the life of a man because ... [snip!] ... looking into the issue to see if its true but there are many girls/women that call rape when there was no rape at all  

And because of these girls who falsely accuse rape, it makes it harder for the girls who were really raped.
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I have 3 kids & live in Maryland
posted 12th May
Quoting The3Musketeers♥:“ It bothers me the fact that a girl can call rape (falsely accusing) and ruins the life of a man because ... [snip!] ... looking into the issue to see if its true but there are many girls/women that call rape when there was no rape at all  

This recently happened to a co-worker of mine. He ran into his ex-girlfriend at the bar. He was extremely drunk, she was not. She took him home so he wouldn't have to walk. This guy happens to rent a room from a friend of mine, and she got home from work and yelled at his bedroom door to see if he wanted to go to the bar with her, or if he had already been. The girl comes out, wrapped in a sheet, smirking, and says "R***** just raped me." My friend looked in the room, saw our co-worker lying on the bed, and told him to get up. He was so drunk he couldn't get up. Meanwhile, the girl who made the accusation is giggling at him. My friend told the other girl to get out. This girl went to her guy friend's house, played a game and a half of beer pong, called the cops on R., and then went to bed with her guy friend (according to her, her guy friend, and the police). The cops showed up, gave R. a PBT, and he blew around 4 times over the legal limit. The cop said that he personally didn't think that R. did it. He went to talk to the girl who made the accusation. She droppped the charges the next day. However, she'd told her mother what had happened, and her mom went to R.'s day job and started screaming to anyone and everyone that he had raped her "virgin" daughter. R. lost that job, and the police are now having to investigate again. On top of it all, the girl gave R. a "little something" to remember her by, that he's on penicillin for.
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I'm due August 25th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Petoskey, Michigan
posted 12th May
I have been a victim of a date-rape scenario and I never pressed charges because of how difficult it was for me at the time. I regret it immensely now. I always wonder if he did that to anyone else. But I was young,had just turned 18,and the whole process was too overwhelming for me. So for a woman to falsely accuse a man out of spite feels like a slap in the face to all of us that have been thru it.
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I have 3 kids & live in Michigan
posted 12th May
Quoting Keebler:“ This recently happened to a co-worker of mine. He ran into his ex-girlfriend at the bar. He was extremely ... [snip!] ... to investigate again. On top of it all, the girl gave R. a "little something" to remember her by, that he's on penicillin for.”

OMG!! That is sooo messed up!
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I have 1 child & live in North Carolina
posted 12th May
The kicker to the whole scenario - she knows where R's other job is, and she came in last week - knowing that he works there - to apply for a job. She's done this to other guys before - usually a few months after they break up. The cops quit taking her seriously, for the most part. I feel sorry for her if she ever does truly get raped, because I can see her being in a "boy who cried wolf" situation at that point. This is a small town, everyone knows everyone else, and word gets around.
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I'm due August 25th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Petoskey, Michigan
posted 12th May
Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ And because of these girls who falsely accuse rape, it makes it harder for the girls who were really raped.”

   
I've experienced this first hand. I was treated like I was the criminal at first untill everything was said and done. They guy got 15 years in prison for what he did to me, but the unjustice that I experienced when I said he raped me was tremendously unfair and has made me wonder just how many other girls have been treated like I was by people who were supposed to protect us.

In our experiment, though, everything was EXACTLY the same in the two scenarios. The victim (unspecified male or female) was 15, the perp was 35. I am still overwhelemed that people could justify allowing the female perp to teach and not the male perp. It's just mind boggling.
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I have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
posted 12th May
Quoting Tara: '08 Honor's Grad!:    I've experienced this first hand. I was treated like I was the criminal at first untill everything ... [snip!] ... still overwhelemed that people could justify allowing the female perp to teach and not the male perp. It's just mind boggling.”

Did anyone reply "Niiiice" in the female teacher/male student scenario?

heh

C.
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I'm due March 18th, have 1 child & live in St. Catharines, Ontario
posted 12th May
Quoting God:“ Did anyone reply "Niiiice" in the female teacher/male student scenario? heh C.”

No, lol. No one really commented on it b/c we gave them clear and direct options to choose instead of leaving it open for disccusion. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if some were thinking it.
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I have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
posted 12th May
Here's the actual survey we did if anyone is interested:


Thank you for participating in our survey. DO NOT PUT YOUR NAME ON THIS PAPER AS IT IS AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY. This survey is strictly voluntary and if you wish not to participate please turn your paper over and it will be collected with the rest of the class.

CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING INCIDENT:

A 35-year-old female teacher has been found guilty of sexual misconduct (sexual intercourse) with a 15-year-old student. Both parties claimed that these sexual acts were consensual. During the investigation, the court found this was not the first time this teacher had engaged in such behavior. The relationship has been going on for over a one-year period.

Without any additional information, please use respond to the following items about this incident

I. IN REGARDS TO ACTION BY THE SCHOOL: (PLEASE CHECK ONE OF THE FOLLOWING)

A_____This teacher should be placed on probation by the school.

OR

B._____This teacher should be fired.


II. HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU IN YOUR DECISION IN #I. ABOVE? (CIRCLE ONE)
1 2 3 4 5
Very Confident Not Not Very
Confident Sure Confident Unconfident


III. IF YOU CHOSE PROBATION IN #I., THE LENGTH OF PROBATION SHOULD BE:
_____0-1 year____1-3 years_____3-5 years________5+years


IV. THE RECOMMENDED PUNISHMENT OF THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BY THE COURTS (CIRCLE ONE).
1 2 3 4
Strongly Disagree Agree Strongly
Agree Disagree
V. IN REGARDS TO THE ACTION BY THE COURTS, PLEASE RESPOND TO THE FOLLOWING ITEMS

A. How long do you think your recommended length of time in jail would be?
_____0-1 year____1-3 years_____3-5 years________5+years


B. _____True or _____False: It is important to make sure all sex offenders receive the punishment they deserve.


C. _____True or _____False: Punishing this teacher will demonstrate that communities will not stand for such behavior in their school systems.


ARE YOU _________MALE OR ________FEMALE?




THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP ON OUR STUDY.



The last three questions are throw off questions and were not scored.
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I have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
posted 12th May
And in regards to the survey we had two randomly selected groups, one was given the survey with the female teacher, one was given the survey with the male teacher but everything else was still the same.
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I have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
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