re: "Playing God" D&D

Quoting Philosoraptor.:" So it was purposeful then? That he created the germs and viruses and such that make us ill? (I'm sorry, I'm really just trying to understand your point of view :X)"

I think the notion of purpose has a wide degree of subjectivity. I will openly admit that none of us can be certain of what His will is - but from a theological/philosophical standpoint, I can't feel confident in agreeing that it's God's glory being done when good things happen and it's God's enigmatic mystique at work when things are going down the smurfhole.
I attribute all the bad things in the world (taking into context) generally as being reactive in nature - whether it be to our fragile state or our free will.

Quoting ♕¡RedHauté!♕:" I think the notion of purpose has a wide degree of subjectivity. I will openly admit that none of us ... [snip!] ... world (taking into context) generally as being reactionary in nature - whether it be to our fragile state or our free will. "

Ok I get ya.

Slightly OT, I read this article in a psychology publication the other day. It was about 'paranormal experiences' such as premonition, deja vu, what have you.

And this well respected publication said 'Science can explain these occurrences to a point, but it cannot explain away everything. It's therefore accepted that there are things happening that science cannot explain.'

Paraphrased of course. So it's basically saying that science accepts that not everything can be explained, and they can't deny some of these happenings, heh.

Quoting Philosoraptor.:" Ok I get ya. Slightly OT, I read this article in a psychology publication the other day. It was about ... [snip!] ... basically saying that science accepts that not everything can be explained, and they can't deny some of these happenings, heh."

If only science could explain everything! Oh, happy day.. hah.
That's very interesting that you mention this. I think it was initially my skepticism of traditional christian ideas (that good/bad things were God's will) and my overall anger at how bad things could be "allowed" to happen that kept me from accepting Christianity. At some point, we all have to accept that there isn't always an explanation. Just because there isn't one, doesn't mean we should ignore the things we see or experience.

Quoting ♕¡RedHauté!♕:" If only science could explain everything! Oh, happy day.. hah. That's very interesting that you mention ... [snip!] ... there isn't always an explanation. Just because there isn't one, doesn't mean we should ignore the things we see or experience."

I don't believe in God. I'll say God exists, because he does in the hearts and minds of those that believe in him. But he doesn't exist in my heart and mind.

But I totally agree that there isn't always an explanation. Life has definitely taught me that, heh.

Quoting Philosoraptor.:" I don't believe in God. I'll say God exists, because he does in the hearts and minds of those that believe ... [snip!] ... in my heart and mind. But I totally agree that there isn't always an explanation. Life has definitely taught me that, heh."

Wow. That is the most tolerant statement I've ever heard from a non-religious person  . I also think it's a subject that has deeply intrinsic qualities. It's not something that should be about the masses, but should be a personal matter - one of the biggest things about religious history that has always bothered me the most, the issue of "converting" others.

It being such a deeply personal subject is one reason I don't talk about religion all that much.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Philosoraptor.:</b>" So you don't think he created illness? You think that he created us, and we are flawed beings, and it was a 'glitch' in his creation, and not purposeful?"</blockquote>


Illness, disease, death ect were all a result of the fall. Before sin entered into the world it didn't exist.

Quoting ♕¡RedHauté!♕:" Wow. That is the most tolerant statement I've ever heard from a non-religious person  . I also think ... [snip!] ... of "converting" others. It being such a deeply personal subject is one reason I don't talk about religion all that much."

I definitely agree with you!

My lack of religion doesn't nullify the fact that it's important to others. If it's fulfilling for them, that's all that matters, and I'm happy they have something in their life that makes them feel good.

The whole 'converting' thing comes from BOTH sides- theists and atheists alike, and I don't think it's right at all. Like you said, it's a deeply personal thing.

Quoting Momma Riss:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Philosoraptor.:</b>" So you don't think he created illness? ... [snip!] ... Illness, disease, death ect were all a result of the fall. Before sin entered into the world it didn't exist."

I know what the bible says, I was just curious as to HER thoughts on it.

But go ahead, elaborate on your interpretation.

(Again, not meant to be offensive, curiosity.)

Quoting Kawaiisaurus:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Emmiboo&Mooka:</b>" My main issue with 'designer babies' is ... [snip!] ... than girls. In the world there's more men than women, and it's not due to picking gender, through medal selection or abortion."

According to GeoHive.com, a site specializing in population statistics, there are around 3,248,080,000 males on the planet and around 3,214,983,000 females. That translates to men accounting for 50.25% of the population.

It's quite close to 50-50. I know in the US there's more males but globally it's quite equal.

I may be one of the few, but the GM babies didn't bother me entirely. The idea doesn't skeeve me out. I immediately saw a practical use for it, in giving gay and lesbian couples children that are legally and biologically related to both of them.
My only hope is that they fully study the lifespan and quality of life of these people before they ever repeat the process. It would be cruel to claim success so early, create more GM babies and then suddenly find that the first children have unforeseen complications that lead to suffering and death.