re: Abortions and Circumcisions

Quoting The Master:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ninja Shahinda:</b>" I agree it should be paid for, as it's ... [snip!] ... my city there is one urologist that will perform non-medical circs and he charges close to $5000 and has a 6 month waiting list"

That's awesome.

There was no one in Darwin that would do them back when Rick was little.

Quoting The Master:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ninja Shahinda:</b>" Really? Which ones? I know it's cultural ... [snip!] ... culturally for not having it done and shunned religiously? Also how do you know your son is going to stay of the same religion?"

Being shunned is being shunned. I'd assume they're equally horrid.
As to the second question, of course nobody knows if their child is going to keep the same beliefs as their parents. However, being religious, I believe it is my job to teach my child my beliefs and have them live them while with me. I believe that's doing something good and healthy for my child, my duty to God.

Oh, and you Aussies, I'm NEVER coming there.
Kareem's sitting here watching WILD on NatGeo channel and some nasty, scary spider lives there.(funnel spider or something)
Oh Dear HeebeeJeebees  

Quoting Ninja Shahinda:" Oh, and you Aussies, I'm NEVER coming there. Kareem's sitting here watching WILD on NatGeo channel and some nasty, scary spider lives there.(funnel spider or something) Oh Dear HeebeeJeebees  "

The bugs and the plane ride would do it for me, lol.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ninja Shahinda:</b>" Oh, and you Aussies, I'm NEVER coming there. Kareem's sitting here watching WILD on NatGeo channel and some nasty, scary spider lives there.(funnel spider or something) Oh Dear HeebeeJeebees  "</blockquote>




We've got a few. Sydney fumnel-web? Its one of the deadliest spiders in the world

Quoting Ninja Shahinda:" Oh, and you Aussies, I'm NEVER coming there. Kareem's sitting here watching WILD on NatGeo channel and some nasty, scary spider lives there.(funnel spider or something) Oh Dear HeebeeJeebees  "

Funnel webs lol.

Red backs are just as awesome... and much much smaller. (It's related to your black widow)

Quoting The Master:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ninja Shahinda:</b>" Oh, and you Aussies, I'm NEVER coming there. ... [snip!] ... HeebeeJeebees  "</blockquote> We've got a few. Sydney fumnel-web? Its one of the deadliest spiders in the world"

Frick, I think that's it. OMG They just reenacted it crawling across the floor and biting a baby.(Wendy Burnside)

Oh, I hate/love that my kids choose to watch this.

Quoting Ninja Shahinda:" I always here this argument in favor of keeping abortions legal "If it's not legal, women will get it ... [snip!] ... ally circ's" not scare you just as much or more? Die hard religious people who believe in it, won't stop because it's illegal. "

That's the reason i don't say it should be illegal.


Some religions already have a "guy" do them in their homes..that's how that one baby got herpes. Because the religious stricture says that the Moel (Or however you spell it) has to put the penis in his mouth...and the guy had oral herpes.


But..if you make them illegal...i have NO DOUBT that the religies at LEAST will still have some crazy moel do them in the living room.

Quoting The Master:" I don't want to make either illegal ... Just want people to educate themselves. In australia circumcision ... [snip!] ... to find a doctor that will do it for non-medical reasons. If your REALlY want to have it done you've gotta pay for it."

THIS is how it should be.
Abortions to me should be free and easy to get.

Circs should not.
Education for both and how to prevent the need for both should be offered EVERYWHERE.


Seriously.
I'd be happy if abortion were completely unnecessary. Not illegal...but unnecessary. In that no one ever got pregnant without WANTING to.

And circing..same thing. I'd be happy if one were never necessary. Religions no longer called for them....and parents knew how to take care of a baby's penis so that the problems that can arise from having a foreskin are SO rare as to be almost nonexistent. That would be a good outcome.

Quoting Ninja Shahinda:" I'm not aware of any religion that makes FGM mandatory. "

Religion, no. But some cultures belief systems are just as strong as any religion.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Philosoraptor.:</b>" Because people won't be so desperate as ... [snip!] ... razor blades and shards of glass. They stopped holding 4 year old girls down because anesthesia is a bad word.....OH WAIT..."

In the US?

Quoting Philosoraptor.:" In the US?"

Actually. People who want to FGM their child....will take them to a country that DOES allow it.

And then just come home minus their little girl's clit or hood or whatever kind of FGM they opted for.

Quoting Satan:" Actually. People who want to FGM their child....will take them to a country that DOES allow it. And ... [snip!] ... that DOES allow it. And then just come home minus their little girl's clit or hood or whatever kind of FGM they opted for."

It's all so sad ): why don't children deserve genital integrity ):

<blockquote><b>Quoting Philosoraptor.:</b>" It's all so sad ): why don't children deserve genital integrity ):"</blockquote>




Because once youre born you've got no rights

Quoting The Master:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Philosoraptor.:</b>" It's all so sad ): why don't children deserve genital integrity ):"</blockquote> Because once youre born you've got no rights"

Sad ):