Forums > Abortion Survivorsby: E'M Shikari

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posted 20th Apr '12
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in Preston, United Kingdom
posted 20th Apr '12
Quoting Ellie Shikari:" I was just 15 when I discovered I was pregnant the first time. I was naive and my boyfriend had told ... [snip!] ... a hard task when I can't even talk about it. If anything were to happen with this current pregnancy I don't know what I'd do."

just be strong, and this time do what you to have for YOURSELF.  
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I'm due September 29th (a girl), have 1 child & live in Wisconsin
posted 20th Apr '12
Still feeling this way and having flashbacks sounds like PTSD. I really do think therapy would help. You don't have to share the info right away and they won't force you to talk about something if you don't want to. I'm sorry you had such a difficult experience.
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I have 4 kids & live in New York
posted 20th Apr '12
Quoting Crystal Mom of 4:" Still feeling this way and having flashbacks sounds like PTSD. I really do think therapy would help. ... [snip!] ... away and they won't force you to talk about something if you don't want to. I'm sorry you had such a difficult experience."

I have an initial meeting with a counceller next tuesday so I'm going to try and stick this one out... for my child's sake if not mine. Sorry if I sound dumb, but what's PTSD?
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in Preston, United Kingdom
posted 20th Apr '12
post traumatic stress disorder
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I'm due September 29th (a girl), have 1 child & live in Wisconsin
posted 20th Apr '12
Quoting Ellie Shikari:" I have an initial meeting with a counceller next tuesday so I'm going to try and stick this one out... for my child's sake if not mine. Sorry if I sound dumb, but what's PTSD?"

It's good that you have an appointment with a counselor. I hope that he or she can help you work through how you're feeling.

PTSD is post traumatic stress disorder.


Symptoms of PTSD fall into three main categories:
1. "Reliving" the event, which disturbs day-to-day activity

  • Flashback episodes, where the event seems to be happening again and again

  • Repeated upsetting memories of the event

  • Repeated nightmares of the event

  • Strong, uncomfortable reactions to situations that remind you of the event

2. Avoidance

  • Emotional "numbing," or feeling as though you don't care about anything

  • Feeling detached

  • Being unable to remember important aspects of the trauma

  • Having a lack of interest in normal activities

  • Showing less of your moods

  • Avoiding places, people, or thoughts that remind you of the event

  • Feeling like you have no future

3. Arousal

  • Difficulty concentrating

  • Startling easily

  • Having an exaggerated response to things that startle you

  • Feeling more aware (hypervigilance)

  • Feeling irritable or having outbursts of anger

  • Having trouble falling or staying asleep

You might feel guilt about the event (including "survivor guilt"). You might also have some of the following symptoms, which are typical of anxiety, stress, and tension:

  • Agitation or excitability

  • Dizziness

  • Fainting

  • Feeling your heart beat in your chest

  • Headache

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001923/
And specifically in relation to abortion:


Symptoms of PASS may include any of the following:
  1. Guilt: Experiencing guilt does not imply that you made a mistake or “violated your own moral code,” as some pro-lifers would imply. However, feelings around having an abortion may be complex and have to take into account fear of what others might think.
  2. Anxiety: General anxiety is a common symptom of PTSD—in the case of PASS, there might be a particular anxiety over fertility issues and the ability to get pregnant again.
  3. Numbness, Depression: Again, common symptoms of PTSD.
  4. Flashbacks: Abortion is surgery, and in most cases, it’s surgery that happens while the patient is fully conscious. This can be a distressing experience.
  5. Suicidal thoughts: In extreme cases, the PTSD that results from a controversial abortion could lead to suicidal thoughts or tendencies and would require immediate treatment. It’s important to note that this is not a common or expected symptom of PASS, but as with any form of PTSD, it is possible.
While abortion can induce post-traumatic stress in some, others will suffer no repercussions at all. In fact, studies have shown that women may feel relieved after experiencing an abortion. However, women who are okay with having an abortion are more likely to talk about their experience than women who are ashamed and regretful and have a better chance of working through this process faster than other women.

Feelings are complex, and sometimes a woman will need to seek out counseling to help her sort through her own emotions and reactions as well as any perceived or actual stigma she may be experiencing. Post-abortion syndrome exists and could be overcome, even if the women believe that they are not allowed to be happy again. A compassionate, unbiased, and appropriate counselor can help a woman who has undergone an abortion come to terms with her decision and find peace again—without a political agenda.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/somatic-psychology/201010/post-abortion-stress-syndrome-pass-does-it-exist
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I have 4 kids & live in New York
posted 20th Apr '12
Ahh Thank you for the information. Does sound like me. I'll be sure to mention everything to a councellor.
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in Preston, United Kingdom
posted 20th Apr '12
good luck!  
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I'm due September 29th (a girl), have 1 child & live in Wisconsin
posted 20th Apr '12
Quoting Momma2Braedon:" good luck!  "

Thank you very much.  
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I have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in Preston, United Kingdom
posted 20th Apr '12
Quoting Ellie Shikari:" Ahh Thank you for the information. Does sound like me. I'll be sure to mention everything to a councellor."

Sometimes it helps just knowing that you aren't the only one to ever feel that way. I hope that you can work through it successfully, good luck!  
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I have 4 kids & live in New York
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posted 20th Apr '12
im so sorry u where forced into an abortion, i wish u luck in the future and im sure ur bubby's going to be fine  
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I'm due July 28th (a boy) & live in Australia
posted 20th Apr '12
Quoting Ellie Shikari:" I was just 15 when I discovered I was pregnant the first time. I was naive and my boyfriend had told ... [snip!] ... a hard task when I can't even talk about it. If anything were to happen with this current pregnancy I don't know what I'd do."


I've been there. Your story is different from mine but there are a few similarities. We were both young, both had people telling us what they think we should do, and both made the same decision.
I know it's hard but you can't turn back the clock so you've just got to move on. Don't focus on it, focus on the baby you have inside your tummy now. Like you, when I was pregnant I struggled with it and thought for sure something would happen to my baby (penance, right?) but she is absolutely fine, perfect, and your baby will be too.
On a much lighter note, love your name!! ;) My favourite.
Feel free to PM me if you ever need to talk. :-)
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I'm due September 29th (a girl), have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Ontario
posted 20th Apr '12
Same thing happens to me but I was only 14 my family forced me and I begged and told them this isn't what I wanted but if I kept it they told me they are putting me in a group home nd the guy i was with was in jail. I had no choice but to do what my family wanted. After I went into a deep depression and wouldn't leave my room for months an lost a out ragious amount of weight and failed school cause I couldn't find the strength to leave my room. I went to counseling and still didn't help but eventually I learned to shut it out but still cried at the thought of what I did and what I horrible person I was. Three years later I got pregnant with the same person and ended up keeping it even though I was kicked out. I now live with my boyfriend. Everyday it still haunts me and I will never forgive my family and honestly that day has changed my whole relationship with my family. I know exactly how you feel trust me everyday I beat my self up about it.
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I'm due April 20th (a boy) & live in Ontario
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