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re: Birth Rates. D&D

posted 10th Apr '12
In the south there are more black people. I've heard from more than one commentator such as Bill Cosby that in the last few decades it has not been a value in african american girls to be married and have a career before having children and that more recently that has been changing. From what I have seen that value shift has been happening in other races too. I know there will always be people who don't value marriage or certain life events before children but by what I've heard it's more prevalent here in the south.


ETA: I'm not in anyway saying that one set of values is better than another, I'm simply stating proported values of different groups of people.
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I have 2 kids & live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
posted 10th Apr '12
Uhhhhh...ummm...

It's a culture thing, not a color thing
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting superpregnant:" Uhhhhh...ummm... It's a culture thing, not a color thing"
It's a culture thing and a color thing and a socioeconomic thing and an education thing and a media thing.
The socioeconomic and education factors are huge. The fact is there are more poor people in the south. The education is poor as well. As smurffy as it is these factors are still affecting black people in the south more than whites.
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I have 2 kids & live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
posted 10th Apr '12
I think maybe specify "socio economic" rather than black in your first post would have made it clearer. Because I'd be willing to put money that a white teen who comes from a bad neighborhood, with parents who didn't finish highschool and work minimum wage jobs is just as likely to get pregnant as a black teen from the same backround, kwim?
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting superpregnant:" I think maybe specify "socio economic" rather than black in your first post would have made it clearer. ... [snip!] ... finish highschool and work minimum wage jobs is just as likely to get pregnant as a black teen from the same backround, kwim?"



Example: I live in Philadelphia. There is a large Domican population in our worst neighborhood. So does this mean I think more Domincans, or hispanic teens are likely to get pregnant in their teens? No. I think more teens who grow up in a neighborhood that is only visited by the wealthy when they want prostitutes or drugs are more likely to get pregnant.
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting superpregnant:" Example: I live in Philadelphia. There is a large Domican population in our worst neighborhood. So ... [snip!] ... up in a neighborhood that is only visited by the wealthy when they want prostitutes or drugs are more likely to get pregnant."
But, that leaves out the issue of values in my first post. A family that has all those things but has a value in marriage and/or career and/or travel is less likely to face a kid with a teen pregnancy than one who doesn't.
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I have 2 kids & live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
posted 10th Apr '12
Go Mississippi.

Hey at least we aren't the fattest state this year.
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I have 1 child & live in Michigan
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting Zipo Bibrok 5 × 10^8 LIVR:" But, that leaves out the issue of values in my first post. A family that has all those things but has ... [snip!] ... has a value in marriage and/or career and/or travel is less likely to face a kid with a teen pregnancy than one who doesn't."



Then where we disagree is that black families value marriage less than other races. Which just comes down to personal experience and POV, I guess
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting superpregnant:" Then where we disagree is that black families value marriage less than other races. Which just comes down to personal experience and POV, I guess"

The commentators that I've heard are not claiming that marriage is not a value but that it is not necessarily important to be married before having children.
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I have 2 kids & live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting Zipo Bibrok 5 × 10^8 LIVR:" The commentators that I've heard are not claiming that marriage is not a value but that it is not necessarily important to be married before having children."
So is it what you believe or have found to be true or is just something you've heard said? I know that around here, people were really upset at things Bill Cosby said a few years back, found them to be counter productive and based on stereotypes. I don't believe it's important to be married before having children, I think a financially stable, adult, single woman can be a better parent than two teenagers can. I don't know if I understand what your point is, and what it has to do with teenagers getting pregnant.
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
posted 10th Apr '12
Dude lol I live in Dothan, AL. Ten mins from the FL line...and literally all we have in this town is tons of motels and eating places. Two movie theaters, Adventureland (which is like a little more growny version of Chuck E Cheese with go carts and batting cages) and uh yeah. So if everywhere else is like here...I'm not surprised the birth rate or pregnancy rate is higher.
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I have 2 kids & live in Dothan, Alabama
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting Ladee+Grant+Lilly:" Dude lol I live in Dothan, AL. Ten mins from the FL line...and literally all we have in this town is ... [snip!] ... batting cages) and uh yeah. So if everywhere else is like here...I'm not surprised the birth rate or pregnancy rate is higher."

We have Mcdonalds, Burger king, Taco Bell, And Subway. Thats it. And some places to grocery shop. The town next to us only have one red light and a subway.
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I have 1 child & live in Florida
posted 10th Apr '12
Quoting ChrissyLovesNoah:" We have Mcdonalds, Burger king, Taco Bell, And Subway. Thats it. And some places to grocery shop. The town next to us only have one red light and a subway."
I mean yeah that's how a lot of the towns up here are too lol. So no I'm not surprised. Give us some better education in schools, and something else to DO...and it might help.
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I have 2 kids & live in Dothan, Alabama
posted 10th Apr '12
Just read that teen pregnancies are at an all time low in seventy years. Amazing.

To answer the OP: religion, boredom, poor education...
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I live in Ohio
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