re: So Jesus wasnt born on Dec 25th?

Quoting **Blessed Insanity **:" OMG that sounds so painfull!! it reminds me of the time my husband was trying to seperate two frozen ... [snip!] ... says " I know what I am doing" JUST as he got done saying it the knife went through his hand...lol.. Did you need stitches?"

nope.
it was just a stab. looked tiny...didn't even really hurt bad at first.

within a few hours my smurfing hand was HUGE....and i couldn't move it. Like..the swelling made it feel like trying to bend a sausage..like my skin would rip.

it's gone down a bit since then...today is like the fourth day or something.
but it's still swollen enough that i can't bend that one finger (and it randomly hit's the caps lock when i try to type)
And my wedding band won't go back on my ring finger yet.

I really didn't mean to cause an argument by posting this. Its just as a child my preacher ALWAYS said that we celebrate dec.25 bc it IS Jesus birthday, but NEVER once did he teach any history of how it to be true. Bc of that I shamefully admit that I honestly dont much about my religion and was hoping someone on here who does know more would explain some of the info to me. My church went strictly by the King James bible, but still didnt teach/mention other stuff that I have heard, like Christmas is a pagan holiday that christians stole<< that was NEVER mentioned, right along with 1000 other things, again I surely didnt mean to cause an argument, was just looking for facts&info.

Quoting MyPurrrtyBabies:" I really didn't mean to cause an argument by posting this. Its just as a child my preacher ALWAYS said ... [snip!] ... right along with 1000 other things, again I surely didnt mean to cause an argument, was just looking for facts&info."

oh lol..there is no argument. this is normal for D&D

the most important thing I found with religious teachings..is really to just do the research yourself. you would be surprised the things you find.

Quoting yo gabby gabby:" oh lol..there is no argument. this is normal for D&D the most important thing I found with religious ... [snip!] ... thing I found with religious teachings..is really to just do the research yourself. you would be surprised the things you find."

Yeah thats what a friend advised me to do, its just how will I know which/what is true and which/what is a guess?

Quoting MyPurrrtyBabies:" Yeah thats what a friend advised me to do, its just how will I know which/what is true and which/what is a guess?"

with religion it is really hard to know sometimes.
but the best ways for me was what most historians agree on etc

Quoting yo gabby gabby:" with religion it is really hard to know sometimes. but the best ways for me was what most historians agree on etc"

Okay, thanks  

Quoting MyPurrrtyBabies:" I really didn't mean to cause an argument by posting this. Its just as a child my preacher ALWAYS said ... [snip!] ... right along with 1000 other things, again I surely didnt mean to cause an argument, was just looking for facts&info."

Aww yeah you defanitly didn't cause an argument! People have different veiws...it's life   Research on your own before you believe everyone on babygaga.

And not all believe that christmas was stolen was"stolen" from the Pagans instead some suggest that the 25 December birthdate for Christ was derived from a Jewish tradition:
"a prophet would have a ‘perfect lifespan’, an exact number of years from conception to death. Since Jesus died at Passover (the antitype of the lambs’ sacrifices), early on the Church celebrated the Annunciation on 25 March, when Gabriel announced the conception to Mary. A ‘perfect pregnancy’ of nine months resulted in a birth date of 25 December. The Roman Sol Invictus or Unconquered Sun festivals actually post-date this Christian observance, which, as shown above, is common for alleged pagan parallels. Observation of this date by Christians goes back at least as far as AD 202 by Hippolytus of Rome in his Commentary on Daniel, while it wasn’t AD 274 that Roman Emperor Aurelian proclaimed a celebration of Sol Invictus, and no clear evidence that this date was celebrated until AD 354.

I recommend this article for some historical info that is not widely known about Christmas: http://www.piousfabrications.com/2010/12/pagan-origins-of-christmas.html

Quoting EnnaBennaBanana:" Aww yeah you defanitly didn't cause an argument! People have different veiws...it's life   Research ... [snip!] ... info that is not widely known about Christmas: http://www.piousfabrications.com/2010/12/pagan-origins-of-christmas.html"

for real?

even the catholics..the ones who DID the "stealing" admit what they did.

holy crap.

Thanks everyone  

<blockquote><b>Quoting Satan:</b>" No. i'm really not stretching. If someone gave you a statue of the devil that was their worship statue...would ... [snip!] ... was an idol to be worshipped. You invite that idol into your house against the teachings of your bible. It's the same thing."</blockquote>




Anything can be an idol. The bible warns against having food as an idol. (Philippians 3:19). Shall we not eat either? I think idolatry is very misunderstood.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Satan:</b>" it's funny to me how all you branches of christianity can assign your own meanings to things. it really ... [snip!] ... becuase you have good intentions....well....those don't keep you out of hell. Quite the opposite from what i've heard.  "</blockquote>




You don't seem to understand Christianity. There is no list of rules you can keep that will keep you out of hell.

who cares???????

Quoting Kristi Ahrens:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Satan:</b>" it's funny to me how all you branches of christianity ... [snip!] ... You don't seem to understand Christianity. There is no list of rules you can keep that will keep you out of hell."

No..but there are lists of rules.

And Depending on the type of Christian you are....breaking them can send you to hell.

Like i said. All you different branches tend to interpret smurf differently.

If one verse said "Do not throw bowling balls at heathens"

One group would say "Oh. That means to throw them at people other than heathens"

One group would say "That's out of context. It means you have to throw bowling balls at them if they're bad"

One group would say "That means don't every throw bowling balls at anyone"


And you know that's how it goes. If you don't know it. Then you're blind.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Satan:</b>" No..but there are lists of rules. And Depending on the type of Christian you are....breaking them can ... [snip!] ... means don't every throw bowling balls at anyone" And you know that's how it goes. If you don't know it. Then you're blind."</blockquote>



Well groups make lists, and that's called legalism. Jesus hates legalism. He was constantly rebuking the Pharisees for it. I'm not here trying to keep anyone's list of rules. I'm fully aware that no human can perfectly keep any list. Christianity is centered around Grace. People who deviate from the central message of grace alone, become legalistic, which causes humans to constantly stumble, and grieves the heart of God.

Quoting Kristi Ahrens:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Satan:</b>" No..but there are lists of rules. And Depending ... [snip!] ... the central message of grace alone, become legalistic, which causes humans to constantly stumble, and grieves the heart of God."

Your version might be centered on grace.
In case you didn't know..there are hundreds and hundreds of versions.
Most are disrespectful to at least one group of people if not multiple.