re: 27 misconceptions about abortion

Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" It's not directly at you so much, but at the people who say personhood begins at conception, which is ... [snip!] ... is the same as assigning personhood to DNA. From there, it's not a stretch to say that a sperm or an egg is half a person. "

It's weird that this wasn't pointed directly at me... lol

I'm just sitting here thinking about how staunchly pro-life I used to be... sitting here in a place that I'd never have seen myself, a place that can see a need for abortions.... and about the abortion debates I've been in on baby-gaga...

....because of you haha... because I remember getting into heated discussions with you.

Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" It's weird that this wasn't pointed directly at me... lol I'm just sitting here thinking about how ... [snip!] ... debates I've been in on baby-gaga... ....because of you haha... because I remember getting into heated discussions with you. "

 

Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Then why is it in embryology textbooks? "Human development begins at fertilization, the process ... [snip!] ... that the fetus has life and abortion brings about fetal death... The value of the life is debatable, obviously, but it is life."

& this is why i love you... you're not pro life but you don't tell half truths to make yourself feel better on the issue

good for you  

Quoting Kailyn's Mommy [PLM]:" & this is why i love you... you're not pro life but you don't tell half truths to make yourself feel better on the issue good for you  "

Yeah, a lot of pro-choice people are the same.   Not everything you don't lie is false.

Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Then why is it in embryology textbooks? "Human development begins at fertilization, the process ... [snip!] ... that the fetus has life and abortion brings about fetal death... The value of the life is debatable, obviously, but it is life."

over here its not called feotal death its called feotal demise and its exactly the same terminology as a miscarriage which btw is called a spontaneous abortion ;) terminology is terminology and honestly means nothing coz in anoher language its probably known as something else.

Quoting Pillowpants is DoingUrMom:" Sure, but there is a difference between Life and "life" Bacteria is alive. "

technically so is a virus and all the yummy animals and plants people eat ... all technically alive.

Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Bacteria is alive but it will never be born as a human.   It will always be a bacteria."

yes but in a debate that life is sacred one would assume that ALL life is sacred ... btw I know that the word sacred wasn't actually used  

Quoting Helen Sidebottom:" over here its not called feotal death its called feotal demise and its exactly the same terminology ... [snip!] ... abortion ;) terminology is terminology and honestly means nothing coz in anoher language its probably known as something else."

Yes, I am aware that they call a miscarriage a spontaneous abortion. It is a medical term. People can call it whatever they want, because terminology doesn't change what is happening... only our perception of it. Which is why some people feel that it is necessary (IMO) to degrade the life of the unborn human in order to be okay with terminating it. Terminology like bunch of cells and parasite, for example. These words have the connotation of less than human....

Quoting Helen Sidebottom:" yes but in a debate that life is sacred one would assume that ALL life is sacred ... btw I know that the word sacred wasn't actually used  "

Is all life sacred? Who gets to decide? I guess we can see what is considered sacred by what is protected by the law. Humans are protected by law. Obviously if we believed that the lives of bacteria were sacred then antibacterial soap would be criminal. Eating animals would be outlawed. We place higher value on some animals than others... just as we place more value on some humans than others. Regardless, it is illegal to harm and/or kill other humans. So, it can be said of society (At least in general), that it values human life over bacteria.

Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Yes, I am aware that they call a miscarriage a spontaneous abortion. It is a medical term. People can ... [snip!] ... it. Terminology like bunch of cells and parasite, for example. These words have the connotation of less than human...."

I agree entirely ... a pet peeve with me in nursing is when people call feotus's parasites because its entirely untrue. I was just making a point that ultimately terminology is meaningless.

Quoting Helen Sidebottom:" I agree entirely ... a pet peeve with me in nursing is when people call feotus's parasites because its entirely untrue. I was just making a point that ultimately terminology is meaningless."

I consider fetuses parasites, because they fit the definition of it. Doesn't mean they aren't loved, just that in the scheme of things, there are more important people than a fetus. Especially already born children. My obligation to my daughter, husband, and self far outweighs my obligation to a fetus

Quoting mama BAWSE!:" I consider fetuses parasites, because they fit the definition of it. Doesn't mean they aren't loved, ... [snip!] ... fetus. Especially already born children. My obligation to my daughter, husband, and self far outweighs my obligation to a fetus"

its fine to feel that way about yourself but what upsets me is when a nurse will go into a pregnant woman's room (and my antenatal nurse did this to me) and say "how is the parasite today?" Its ok if you've got a repoire with that person, but I just think its really unprofessional.

Quoting Helen Sidebottom:" its fine to feel that way about yourself but what upsets me is when a nurse will go into a pregnant ... [snip!] ... say "how is the parasite today?" Its ok if you've got a repoire with that person, but I just think its really unprofessional."

I agree with that. It might offend someone you don't know to call THEIR child a fetus.

If I were the nurse, I'd be asking 'How are you feeling today?'