Quoting Kira [Quincy's Mama]:" I think there is a difference between hoarding, and just being messy. I mean, with hoarding they begin ... [snip!] ... is understandable. It happens. Sometimes my house is cluttered as well, but it's more or less an organized clutter. lol."
No, I know. I just don't think people should lose their children for hoarding. Unless it's like, hoarding completely hazardous materials.
My aunt was a hoarder. Not of anything unsafe, just of things. Books, clothes, toys. She saved everything, hit up every yard sale. EVERYTHING. It was all safe and clean, it was just everywhere. She raised two children in a house made of things. Was it a normal upbringing? Nope. Did it cause problems? Yep. BUT she always made she the girls were cared for.
She died before she got help with her hoarding, and one of her daughters has it as well, but the oldest totally cleaned out the whole house and it's just lovely now. I'm so proud of them.
But yeah, I think it depends on what they hoard before it becomes a matter of removing the children.