re: Self Induced miscarriage?

Quoting jellybean1(HBM):“ You haven't seemed to get the point of any of this, nor how inappropriate your comments, and the wording ... [snip!] ... you have a very limited understanding (or perhaps are poorly traveled) as to what goes on in country's other than your own.”

Are you threatening me for advising against what is already to be known as dangerous in the medical community - a self-induced miscarriage? The thread asked "what do you think?" not "everyone just agree with me on doing this."

Quoting Oh crap:“ Okay, so I know it this probably a sensitive topic, but if anyone has read my previous post then they ... [snip!] ... information and claims. http://angryforareason.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-induce-miscarriage-herbally-and.html?commentPage=7”

I have used these methods before, for years actually because I got tired of synethic birth control. Herbal birth control takes extreme dedication to your cycles (recording them) and being in tune with your body but once you find the right methods for you - it just becomes routine and habit to know what to take when and in what dosages. I used herbal contraceptive for 2 yrs successfully after a synthetic birth control failure that led to an abortion.

Info . . . . .
Provoke a period when you are due, it can even work if you are a bit late. You can do this by using Vitamin C. Take 12 grams of ascorbic acid - Vitamin C a day until bleeding commences. Specifically use ascorbic acid. Do not use vitamin C with bioflaviniods or has Rose-hips in it. Look for the cheap generic brands, they are usually the ones that have pure ascorbic acid. Doses consisting of 1,000mg every two hours are most common.
The vitamin C -ascorbic acid- works to produce an unfavorable climate within the uterus so that the egg does not implant, or cannot maintain its grip on the uterine wall by stimulating estrogen, and possibly interfering with progesterone.
http://www.sisterzeus.com/Hsp1shlp.htm and and http://www.sisterzeus.com/Vit_C.htm

Andrea - Took Vit C for 30 Days
http://sisterzeus.com/Sharing/Andreaa.html

I have used these methods successfully before. I take 1,000mg every two hours until bleeding commences. You should be waking up every 4 hours and taking your missed doses at night, this ensures that you have a constant level of ascorbic acid in your blood stream. 12grams a day - 1,000mg/1gr every two hours.

Contradictions: Who shouldn't use Vitamin C -
Individuals who have sensitive kidneys, kidney disease, kidney stones, or kidney problems of any kind, may want to avoid large amounts of Vitamin C. High doses of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) may cause the formation of kidney stones.9
People who take anti-coagulants [like aspirin or other pharmaceutical drugs], who have sickle-cell anemia, or who have difficulty metabolizing Vitamin C shouldn't take large amounts of vitamin C without the supervision of their physician.
MotherNature.com lists these conditions where people who have them shouldn't use vitamin c. Glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency, Iron overload disorders like (hemosiderosis or hemochromatosis), History of kidney stones, Kidney failure.10 or renal disorders.
Vitamin C is nontoxic at levels far in excess of the RDA. Some individuals develop diarrhea or loose stools from taking approximately 2,000 to 5,000 mg per day, while even higher levels do not bother others. High levels of vitamin C can deplete the body of the essential mineral copper, so take a multi-vitamin that contains copper if you're mega-dosing on C.

***High doses of vitamin C may also increase the risk of kidney stones in some people, although studies indicate that those who do not have a history of kidney stones, severe kidney disease, or gout are not at risk. ***
http://www.sisterzeus.com/vit_c_ab.html

http://sisterzeus.com/List.htm
Preventing and Ending Pregnancy Herbally

The most authoritative book on using herbs to self-induce an abortion, available to read for free online -
Natural Liberty: Rediscovering Self-Induced Abortion Methods ISBN: 0964592002 http://www.scribd.com/doc/22321349/Natural-Liberty-Rediscovering-Self-Induced-Abortion-Methods

NATURAL INDUCED MISCARRIAGE
Last Resort Methods
According to a 2003 study by the British Medical Journal of 1055 women it was discovered that pregnant patients who took aspirin or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) were 60% - 80% more likely to miscarry than women who didn't use the pain reliever.
*I recommend taking aspirin 4 - 12 pills a day. They are also a blood thinner and that will help with what you are trying to accomplish.
There are other simple things you add to your diet to help - avocados, ginger, cloves, coffee, figs and parsley.
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http://www.naturalmiscarriage.org

Herbal Abortion - A Women's DIY Guide
Herbal Abortion gathers some of the long-known knowledge of herbal abortion and puts it into a straightforward and practical pamphlet.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88918/Herbal-Abortion


Most women probably do not know what they are talking about when it comes to herbs.

One the other hand, I have done extensive research on alternative methods of *safely* inducing a miscarriage. It was my thesis for my major in Women's Studies.

I also use herbs regularly at the birth center I work at studying to be a midwife. And the work I did in Mexico in the Peace Corps doing my research and helping women obtain safe abortions using herbs because abortions are illegal there.

It's a meme, a throw back to when abortions were illegal and dangerous - that's the only reason why people think self-inducing abortion is wrong or dangerous because it *used* to end loads of women in the hospital or the morgue *but* those deaths were usually attributed to unsanitary or unskilled surgical abortions - not herbs.


Herbal Methods can work if done early enough and it can be safe if you do your research and make informed decisions.


~Divine




EDIT -

My normal spiel . . . .
Either the herbs must be successful or an clinical abortion must be sought. Most herbs are embryotoxic or tetragenic (causes birth defects), keeping a pregnancy after you have used herbs is generally not recommended (Vitamin C is NOT a known embroytoxic/tetragen but no one has looked into the effects of high doses of Vitamin C without Bioflavinoids would have on a continuing pregnancy).

Vitamin C is very safe, the extra Vitamin C is excreted in your urine - so 'overdosing' is really hard. Of course if your kidneys aren't healthy - you shouldn't try this *but* most people are healthy. It is also one of the most effective methods for terminating an early pregnancy. Herbal Methods can work if done early enough and it can be safe if you do your research and make informed decisions. Many women have successfully used herbs to terminate unwanted pregnancies. Just because it's not an option for some, doesn't mean other women wouldn't want the knowledge, it is a personal choice whether one wants an abortion - herbal or clinical. She should do her own research and decide for herself whether or not she understands the risks and is a good candidate for these methods. Remember everything in life has it's risks and unless one fully understands their options and the subsequent risks, there cannot be true informed consent.



Ps - One of the most awesome herbs out there for influencing your fertility is Rosemary with it's well-documented anti-implantation abilities. Why is Rosemary awesome? Because it has been *proven* that if it fails to prevent implantation - there is NO tetragenicity.. Come on ladies - Do your research!

Quoting Oh crap:“ That's what I thought....so I guess it might be worth a shot before making an appointment for an abortion. ... [snip!] ... doing it at home and relatively naturally might make it an *easier* experience...even thought there is nothing easy about this.”

I don't know if any of the sites pointed this out to you, but in the event that the vitamnin C and parsley fails to cause miscarriage,you absolutely "need" to get a surgical abortion,because herbal methods of abortion can cause horrible,horrible birth-defects.

Also,large amounts of vitamin C are bad for your liver,and harmful.The reason some herbs can cause miscarriage is that they are often highly toxic,and even if they don't kill you they can do things like cause kidney failure,liver damage,migraines,ect.Just be very,very thorough in your research and know that even then you might not get all the info you need to stay safe.If I were you I'd go for the surgical.If you are very early,than it's a simple procedure.It hurts,definatley, but it's over fast.Good luck,mama.Take care

So, wait. Now I'm all confused. Taking vitamin C will kill your baby? Is this just before the 7th week, and in large doses? 1000mg every two hours? Does it always work? Doesn't it hurt you?

Hi.

Like you I was pregnant, When I found out it was pretty early on into my pregnancy. I had sex on the 6th of January (unprotected) and I was supposed to get my period on the 14-17 of January. By the 18th of January I was already scared because I was late and I was never late.

I had taken 4 first responce pregnancy test about 8th days after I had had sex and all were negative. I was pretty sure I wasnt pregnant, until I missed my period. Long story short I did some researched called a womens health clinic and found out I had all the symptoms of an early pregnancy and that the test I had taken came out negative because at home pregnancy test can detect pregnancy hormones only 14 days after sex not earlier.

I had made an appointment to go get checked in and discuss "Abortion".

Yes, I was willing to have one. I for one before this did not favor abortion, abortion wasnt even something I would have thought of but at the time I was scared. My boyfriend and I had been dating for a couple months only and I came from an old fashioned family and I had college.

Keeping it wasnt an option. I had no one told no one in my family no friends and not even my boyfriend. So I took matters into my own hands and after doing some research on "self induced miscarriages and abortions" I decided that I was going to go with Vitamin C and Herbs.

Now, let me tell you that this was based on my personal experience and mines only. Just because it worked for me doesnt mean it worked for everyone.

I was only about 5 days late in my period so what I did was buy me some vitamin C. I used Sundown Naturals High Potency Vitamin C (500mg) with no rosehips or biofivlids .

I also purchesed some Dong Quai, liquid form to start drinking.

I started of by taking 10 Vitamin C Tablets every day (One every Hour) I started later on during the day so I could take some in the middle of the night (Last one 2 am).

I was going to do this for 5 days but luckily I only had to do it for 3 days, as the end of the second day I started spotting.

When I began to spot I didnt stop taking it I continuef for the whole next day.
Afterwards I the next day (4th day) I stopped the vitamin C and began having the Dong Quai drops. (14 drops in 1 cup) I did it in the morning and took some every 5 hours (not 4 since I didnt want to risk it).

After my first tea my period was very heavy I had bad cramps and by the end of the night I was in the bathroom practically throwing my bloods cloths.

Notice I only took Dong Qaui for 1 day and not any more.

This was just my personal experience.

You should know that Vitamin C does not kill the baby cause there is no baby yet, only a small fetus or embryo which will be a small bag looking cloth when it comes out.


Hope this helps.

You can try Sat. Johns wort (worked for me a few years ago) . You have to take a massive dose however, same with black and blue cohosh and pennyroyal. all induce cramps. Be safe and drink lots of water

I have bought 1000mg vitamin c how much do I take a day to induce a miscarriage?

Quoting Lucy marie_25:" I have bought 1000mg vitamin c how much do I take a day to induce a miscarriage?"

YOu are NOT supposed to take more than 6000 mg a day. It is recommended to take 500mg an hour or 1000 every 2 hours for up to 6 days. NO LONGER. If it doesnt work, it doesnt work. Combine with parsley infusions for optimum success. I am in no way endorsing this method. I have seen it FAIL twice in very close friends and both complained of dizziness and hot flashes. Be careful!

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I recently discovered that I was pregnant and found this thread while researching alternative abortion methods. I have tried vitamin c in the past and failed, having to spend a fortune on a procedure that was painful both physically and mentally. What's I didn't know was that the vitamin c needs to be free of rose hips or bioflavonoids. I decided to try again, buying a $15 bottle of 500 mg vitamin c (ASCORBIC ACID) chewables and took one every hour. Within 48 hours I successfully miscarried. I have scheduled an appointment with my doctor to make sure everything is in working order. I'm so happy I decided to try this method. An enormous amount of weight has been lifted from my shoulders. If there weren't so many misconceptions about herbal abortion methods there would be a lot less pain and fear and stress surrounding terminating a pregnancy.
I made an account on here for the sole reason of sharing my personal experience with this but everyone is different and it is important that you do your research and explore all of your options before attempting anything by yourself. Talking to your doctor about what would be safest for you is your best bet.
I'm not looking for any nasty responses or judgements.
This is for anyone who is as scared and confused as I was just a few days ago.